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Which cartridge for crows? 32g 6's or 36 gr 5's


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Going to start getting on the crows once ive picked up my Beretta AL391 Urika 2 at end if month.

I am quite new to crow decoying so wanted to ask whats the best cartridge you guys prefer for the job? Such as make, shot size etc.

Ive got about 150 gamebore clear pigeons 32gr 6's but thinking of trying something with a bit more poke.

Ive also looked at the Gamebore black 36gr and also my rfd has 65mm 32gr 6 high bird.

Please feel free to get them suggestions coming :)

Thanks all

Lewis

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I use 30grm 5's in my Urika 2 with 1/2 choke but 25grm 5's in the 20g, again with 1/2 choke (in both barrels). Both knock them down well but I actually prefer the 20g as I feel I shoot better with it.

I have found that 6 shot doesnt quite have enough punch to effect a clean kill but using heavier loads is, IMO, a waste of money and is more tiring if you have a good day.

However, its each to their own in the end.

 

 

 

GH

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Clear pigeon...crows do not have armour and tend to be a little lighter than pigeons, however if you mean rooks and jackdaws then I would step down to clay cartridges 7 1/2`s in 28gm would be fine.

Have to agree there. 28gm 7 1/2s are enough if you put the shot on them. 247 over the last two weeks would agree with me.

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Heck I shoot them with all sorts 36grm No5 out of choice but have shot them with clay shells, steel duck shells even got one with 63 grm of lead BB at a stupid range. Shot one tonight with 18grm no6 from the .410 stone dead out of a tree at back of house, whatever you have confidence in and suits you gun

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I can recommend no 6 bud Iv'e been using Trust Super Halcon 30g no6 for most of this year and they kill them bud most of the crows i shoot are carrion and rooks if i was shooting jackdaws i'd use any trap no 71/2 would be good enough for them.. Been paying £177 for the Trust carts a 1000

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There's no way you're going to need more poke than 32g #6. I've shot plenty with 19 gram 7's out of the .410. And last week I was shooting them with 21g 7 1/2's in the 12 and just went for a full choke.

 

As a general rule 30g 6's does basically everything. With decoying crows, you'll manage on 28g 7 1/2's if you're wanting to save some money.

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nothing wrong with clear pigeon and you can still kill them at good distances as well so dont be fooled into getting bigger cartridges you dont need them.

i only use them because i got some cheap but i prefer 30g or 32g 6's.

great gun choice by the way brilliant for pigeons and crows.

i shoot cylinder for everything now never have a problem at distance

i use sillosocks crow decoys they are the dog danglies i have tried all other decoys and they win hands down even i can see them from hundreds of yards away.

cheers

Daz

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nothing wrong with clear pigeon and you can still kill them at good distances as well so dont be fooled into getting bigger cartridges you dont need them.

i only use them because i got some cheap but i prefer 30g or 32g 6's.

great gun choice by the way brilliant for pigeons and crows.

i shoot cylinder for everything now never have a problem at distance

i use sillosocks crow decoys they are the dog danglies i have tried all other decoys and they win hands down even i can see them from hundreds of yards away.

cheers

Daz

 

the only reason, people use 30-32g loads is because of cost, that is all. #5 shot is an exellent shotsize for birds especially where the birds are not decoyed. the old traditional pigeon loads used to be 1,1/4oz loads. then they got reduced to 1,1/8oz. the thing thats in fashion at the moment to compensate is speed. the #6 is a standard partridge / pigeon shotsize in 32g loads it does very well in shotcount and the relatively short upto 40yards.

the cartridge manufacturers need to put "spin" on a cartridge brand or product, currently there is this trend of 27grams or 29grams respectively. the reduction of 1 gram is nothing. its marketing bull. over homeloads it saves £3 per 1000 shells. that is penny pinching at its finest. thats all £3. the manufacturer saves almost nothing, a kilo of lead per K is nothing.

 

all that marketing is BS, bigger shot rarely gets used here because we are obsessed with #6 shot.

 

as for shooting stuff further, just go for the big shot. not only does it get there, when it does, it has the energy to bring down the bird. over distance, shoot looses alot of energy.

 

the best advice i can give you is to try a few boxes of each. but i can give you another great piece of advice.

big shot doesnt have to be going that fast to do alot of damage. thats the key.

 

i once new a guy who was virtually in tears, because he thinks all shot bigger than #6 is magnum. and he`d blow up his gun. he wondered why cartridge manufacturers would sell over pressure ammunition to blow up people.

and the gun he was using? 3" hatstand !

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The seasonal Hull Superfast - which is a 27gr 7.5 - knocks them clean at a fairly decent distance. Light on the shoulder when you are firing 250 in a day and cycles through my escort cleanly. Also helps that it's £145 per 1000 - give or take a few pounds.

 

Cheap and consistent is the way forward for crows/jackdaws/rooks I would say.

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