castletyne Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 As stated, being an illegal has nothing to do with race, so the ad cannot be racist. But the ad has been associated with the recent Border Force crackdown, stop and challenge at Londonistan railway and tube stations. It has been argued that "racial profiling" is being used to select which suspects are collared. I would say that's the best way to do it as most illegals are not white For every white illegal there's probably hundreds of non white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greymaster Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 "Muhammed Butt, leader of Brent Council, said he believed that there was no coincidence between the “go home or face arrest” van and the new random checks in Kensal Green. “I am sure it is probably connected and it leaves a very nasty taste in the mouth,” he said. “These so-called spot checks are not only intimidating but they are also racist and divisive. It appears from speaking to people who witnessed what happened in Kensal Green that it was only black and Asian-looking people who were asked to prove their identity. What about the white Australians and New Zealanders who may have overstayed their visas?” The Independent Newspaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bi9johnny Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 The result of the vote thus far says most are of the same opinion. Long may it continue I for one will chip in for the airfare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 Like I said it can be read in 2 parts , the part where it says " go home or face arrest " or is that " get back to your own country " That's the bit where it can be abit slightly racist . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevekeating Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 Not anti immigrant, its is anti ILLEGAL immigrant, there is a massive difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 Like I said it can be read in 2 parts , the part where it says " go home or face arrest " or is that " get back to your own country " That's the bit where it can be abit slightly racist . No, "get back to your own country" is not racist....there is no mention of race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 You are right oscarsdad there is no mention of race in the sign but its implying it indirectly in my view. When someone is of different colour and can't speak the English language properly when in an argument "get back to your own country " is definitely a racist remark, I've seen and heard it too many times believe me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl206 Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 Can someone edit the title of the thread? The adverts are anti-illegal immigration not anti-immigration: there is a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRYAN3 Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 Its not racist. Where are the words rush or hurry on the truck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 I don't think its racist just stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reece Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 The adverts are certainly not racist, but I do not support them. Come on, who thinks that they will actually work? It's a bit like asking criminals to hand over their guns - it will never happen because the type of people who break the law, whether on guns or immigration, are not going to be the type who respond to these adverts. It's nothing more than a gesture to make it look like the government is doing something while it isn't doing anything at all. It's just the latest attempt to stop the growth of support for UKIP and it isn't going to work. We need to regain control of our borders to deal with illegal immigration. These adverts are just a gimmick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castletyne Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 Maybe have an amnesty instead Big sign saying....in the country illegaly all is forgiving come forward for your passport and council house Plenty would fall for it then its back home to bongo bongo land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnerbob Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 Maybe have an amnesty instead Big sign saying....in the country illegaly all is forgiving come forward for your passport and council house Plenty would fall for it then its back home to bongo bongo land I like the cut of your jib sir.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 Maybe have an amnesty instead Big sign saying....in the country illegaly all is forgiving come forward for your passport and council house Plenty would fall for it then its back home to bongo bongo land I like the cut of your jib sir.... +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotgun sam Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 The illegals will use the excuse they could not read English and did not know what they were doing was illegal. However they understand enough English to claim all the benefits they can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 The illegals will use the excuse they could not read English and did not know what they were doing was illegal. However they understand enough English to claim all the benefits they can. Yes, but it is easier to claim benefits if you don't speak English, the forms are available in every language other than English and no-one would dare question the validity of the claim if you are from bongo bongo land would they.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 The illegals will use the excuse they could not read English and did not know what they were doing was illegal. However they understand enough English to claim all the benefits they can. illegals arnt on the radar so they don't claim benefits i wouldn't think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 As stated, being an illegal has nothing to do with race, so the ad cannot be racist. But the ad has been associated with the recent Border Force crackdown, stop and challenge at Londonistan railway and tube stations. It has been argued that "racial profiling" is being used to select which suspects are collared. Racial profiling eh? If you did random checks in London blindfolded only about one in ten people stopped will to be white Anglo Saxons. Have you seen the place lately? Oh dear have I said something racist? Oh well, happy days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 Its not racist. I cant see it making a difference though. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpkiller Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 people are coming from wherever their home is to this country illegally, this is an advertisement for these people to voluntarily go back to their home country, which is the law. Nothing racist here. The sort of people complaining are the sort of non job people trying to justify their own non jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolk dumpling Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 It's a good job it didn't say we were going to send them back to bongo bongo land.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolk dumpling Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 It's a good job it didn't say we were going to send them back to bongo bongo land.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper3 Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 read this and weep you bunch of immigrants Scientists say they have discovered big genetic differences between the English and Welsh, reinforcing the idea that the "true" Britons were pushed to the fringes by a large-scale Anglo-Saxon invasion. Researchers at University College London found the genes of a sample of English men were almost identical to those of people in an area of the Netherlands where the Anglo-Saxons are thought to have originated. But there were clear differences between the genetic make-up of English and Welsh subjects studied. The researchers concluded that the most likely explanation for this was a large-scale Anglo-Saxon invasion, which wiped out most of the indigenous population in England but did not reach Wales. The team studied the Y-chromosome, which is usually inherited unchanged from father to son, and looked for certain genetic markers. Related Articles It chose seven market towns mentioned in the Domesday Book of 1086 and studied the genes of 313 male volunteers whose paternal grandfather had also lived in the area. They then compared them with samples from Friesland, now a northern province of the Netherlands. The English and Frisians studied had almost identical genetic make-up but the English and Welsh were very different. It appeared that a "genetic barrier" existed along Offa's Dyke, a 150-mile long early medieval border between England and Wales. Dr Mark Thomas, of the Centre for Genetic Anthropology at UCL, said: "It appears that England is made up of an ethnic cleansing event from people coming across from the Continent after the Romans left." Archaeologists after the Second World War rejected the traditionally-held view that an Anglo-Saxon invasion pushed the indigenous Celtic Britons to the fringes of Britain. Instead, they said the arrival of Anglo-Saxon culture could have come from trade or a small ruling elite. But the latest research "using genetics as a history book" supports the original view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 (edited) read this and weep you bunch of immigrants Related Articles It appeared that a "genetic barrier" existed along Offa's Dyke,l so you are saying we are all relatives of a BBC commentator? KW Edited August 11, 2013 by kdubya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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