FAC just for rabbits ?

[Danoi99]

How hard will it be to get a FAC for a .22 rimfire or overpowered air rifle for shooting wabbits on local farmland? A 20ft lbs air rifle would probably do me !!

 

I've had 12ft lbs rifles and they are ok.....nicer to have a bit more range though eh ?

 

I have a SGC at the moment. So I guess they trust me, don't they ?

[Underdog]

If the place is not next to a housing estate and you can give them good reason they can not refuse.

Go for it.

U.

[Fisheruk]

Presumably you have permission to shoot over the land. Assuming it is a piece of land which is safe to shoot you should have no problem.

[kent]

Got land then you have "good reason" this is the main FAC test after the security (which was answered when they issued you a SGC). If your going FAC air then go bigger than 20 ft lb as although it will flatten things up a bit and hit harder, realistically it wont add much range. 30-35 ft lb .22 cal PCP is about optimum but is non the less totally outclassed by the .22 rimfire in everything but safety zones (which is the only reason to look to air power)

[Guest cookoff013]

maybe go for a .25 40ftlb airgun?

[Frenchieboy]

If you do go for an FAC (And from what you have said there doesn't seem to be and reason why you shouldn't as long as the land is suitable for rimfires) then why not put in for the FAC Air Rifle plus a .22LR and moderator and a .17HMR and moderator all at the same time? That way it leaves all of your options open without the need for a variation at a later date if you decide to "expand on your arsenal".

[Muddy Funker]

If the land is safe to use rimfire I've no idea why anyone would bother with fac air, especially if the target is rabbits.

[Zx12rash]

When I applied I put all down .22 FAC air and .17hmr. FEO said its not a shopping list. Lol.

I ended up with a .22lr (my choice) and FAC air. Air is great around buildings. And where there isn't a safe back stop.

Just stick to what Kent said.

[eccles]

When I applied I put all down .22 FAC air and .17hmr. FEO said its not a shopping list. Lol.

I ended up with a .22lr (my choice) and FAC air. Air is great around buildings. And where there isn't a safe back stop.

Just stick to what Kent said.

Not sure about the none safe back stop bit ,i would not fire my ranger FAC 40lb without one.

[belly47]

When you pply for fac, put as much down as possible as they can only say no, i received mine back last weekend and applied for .22 rimfire, .17 hmr, and fac air and got all 3 granted

 

If you have suitable land there is no reason for them to say no really

[Zx12rash]

Not sure about the none safe back stop bit ,i would not fire my ranger FAC 40lb without one.

Really meant incase of ricochet. I have a place cleared for FAC air but not for rimmy cause the ground is solid in summer and will ping .22lr all over the shop.

Obviously if you don't have a safe backstop you shouldn't be shooting.

 

A sure shot is a safe shot

[spandit]

I'm guessing they won't give me a .50 cal...

 

I thought about applying for FAC air but can't really see the point. I know the ammo is cheaper but the guns are often more expensive than a rimfire and if I were shooting in a barn, for instance, my non-FAC air rifle would do the job

[Danoi99]

It was ammo cost that was driving me towards the Air side of things guys !! I know Rimfire ammo is pretty affordable too.............oh damn it !!! You lot have got me wanting .17HMR now !!! aarrgh !!!

[pat g]

If the land is safe to use rimfire I've no idea why anyone would bother with fac air, especially if the target is rabbits.

I would tend to agree up to a point, however FAC is useful in a situation where it would'nt be safe to use a rimfire.

Kent has nailed it in a nutshell

ATB,

Pat

[njc110381]

I'd go for a .22lr and a .17HMR if it's just rabbits you want to shoot. The HMR is fantastic for bunnies. With a .22lr you can always run low powered rounds. I've found Remington CBees to be very good in my rifle - they run at about 40ft-lbs.

[kent]

Not sure about the none safe back stop bit ,i would not fire my ranger FAC 40lb without one.

Backstop or backdrop, they are both different things. FAC air has limited range if fired into tree tops (far less than computers calculate as they assume a stable pellet). 30 ft lb retains approx. 15 ft lb at 100 yds with an average .22 pellet so at best 400 yds (try shooting a 12 ft lb gun 300yds, I have and it wont reach that far) even with a following wind and perfect trajectory (easy enough to select a safe Backdrop) Try that with .22 lr subsonics which are actually capable of shooting Bin lid size targets at 500 yds by intent and still carry enough energy to hurt or even kill a human size creature and carry much further still (unless its shot into a good backstop). It is for this reason air is safer fired into a good backstop the point is mainly mute between any firearms.

I have taken many shots without a Backstop and FAC air but never one without a safe backdrop, if anyone thinks that's wrong then its also wrong to shoot a shotgun or 12 ft lb airgun skywards as there is only 100 yds in it

[Shropshire_Lad]

I think you have to look at the land you shoot over to decide which way to go, not the cost. Over the last few years I have shot quite a lot with Salop Sniper off here. A while back we both had FAC air, .22lr and HMR. Our permissions are very different and it has become clear that there is no right or wrong tool, it just has to be matched to the land it is going to be used over. Mine tend to be longer range open farmland which suits the HMR, Salops require stealth and closer range safety above all else. Our best night this last week produced 62 Rabbits to Matts FAC air Rifle, very few would have been shot with a rimfire.

 

atvb Paul.

[karpman]

Just been granted fac and put in multiple permission all of which would never likley been cleared for rimmy on the nature and size of the land. All have been cleared for fac air.

 

I needed another air rifle, my ticket cost 50 quid and fac air costs far less than 12ftlbs so I was all in for 300 quid.

 

All be it the rifle I bought was ****ed and has had to go for repair lol.

 

Karpman