Tinribz Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 Hi can anyone help im useing eley pigeon fibre carts my first 500 since starting shooting and im having trouble cleaning the fowling around the chamber ive been soaking it with gun oil and wd-40 and its still taking forever to clean it off extremely stuborn can anyone recomend a product to help remove the leftover powder easyier or should i just switch carts to something alot cleaner was thinking about hull pigeon but there £50 more per 500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 Hi can anyone help im useing eley pigeon fibre carts my first 500 since starting shooting and im having trouble cleaning the fowling around the chamber ive been soaking it with gun oil and wd-40 and its still taking forever to clean it off extremely stuborn can anyone recomend a product to help remove the leftover powder easyier or should i just switch carts to something alot cleaner was thinking about hull pigeon but there £50 more per 500 buy your cartridges from somewhere else. keep them at ambient temp. not in a cold garage / shed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinribz Posted September 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 I keep them at room temp maybe there stored at a difrent temp before i bought them i read up on eley pigeon aparently there very dirty just wondered if theres a way of cleaning the barrel without spending ages scrubing it id like to stick with the eleys there great but im thinking of changing so i can save hours cleaning my gun every trip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 I'm not saying its the correct way and some may say no don't do that. But I have an old cleaning rod. with a cleaning brush on ,I put it in a battery or electric drill on very slow speed and just run it up and down inside the barrells with some cleaner , brings them up lovely with very little effort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 yes iv seen a gun smith do this, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 I get this with the same cartridges use a chamber brush and a drill with wd40. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 Is it lead fouling! U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 If its the same as mine its mainly lead with bits of fiber in it. Boreshine and g96 also get rid of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinribz Posted September 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 Im not sure my mate said its unburnt powder the only place its bad is the the chamber where it comes out of the cartridge it collects right on the rim and its realy hard to shift i have to spend ages scrubing it back and forth just inside the barrel the other end and chokes are fine ......how do you attach the brush to the drill and can it cause any damage ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 [quote name="Tinribz" post="2283879" timestamp="1379251727 ......how do you attach the brush to the drill and can it cause any damage ? Only you can cause any damage by using it, ie catching the end of the barrell or ejectors with the chuck or not keeping the drill straight I use an old cleaning rod which will fit into a 12mm chuck and clean it how you would by hand but with no effort using a drill If you are unsure doing it this way or not a very practical kind of person, I would say do not do it this way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinribz Posted September 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 Cheers fruity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 Before you get the drill out just try this; Years ago I realised how easily lead came out of my black powder shotguns when I cleaned them. I favour boiling water to clean my black powder shotguns. Hold the barrels in a towel and pour a boiled kettle down the barrels. Now shove a tight patch on a jag down and you should see the lead stuck to the patch. I think the temp change frees the lead! The heat will dry the tubes and whilst warm add your chosen protection. U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinribz Posted September 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 Hopefully im out on wednesday so il try this method first before breaking the drill out thanks for all the answers needed to find a method that didnt take hours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 Get a chamber brush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roscoc180 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 I was getting this with Eley Firsts, the first 3 inches filthy. My gunsmith told me to wrap wire wool around the brush and it would come out easily, changed cartridges now to white gold more expensive but better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 (edited) One or two interesting suggestions here which I feel should perhaps be treated with a level of caution. Just the same I'm struggling to understand how the situation should have got so bad as to suggest conventional cleaning is still not producing results. If all else fails I'm sure this will chip off the crud! Edited September 22, 2013 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 One or two interesting suggestions here which I feel should perhaps be treated with a level of caution. Just the same I'm struggling to understand how the situation should have got so bad as to suggest conventional cleaning is still not producing results. If all else fails I'm sure this will chip off the crud! HammerDrill.jpg I'm sure people like getting results quickly. Why spend 30 minutes letting bore cleaner soak in etc, still to find the barrels are not clean? Spend 5 minutes with a bronze brush on the cleaning rod attached to the drill and it will be done. Simple! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 nobody has mentioned " Hoppies spray"......its what i used to use to de-foul my rifle barrells with at the end of the year....great stuff and you can get high on it so careful....spray it on then scrub it out with the bronze........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Before you get the drill out just try this; Years ago I realised how easily lead came out of my black powder shotguns when I cleaned them. I favour boiling water to clean my black powder shotguns. Hold the barrels in a towel and pour a boiled kettle down the barrels. Now shove a tight patch on a jag down and you should see the lead stuck to the patch. I think the temp change frees the lead! The heat will dry the tubes and whilst warm add your chosen protection. U. dont do what i did once , and that is to wash and scrub your blackpowder barrells out in the bath.............the missus went BALLISTIC.....left an indelible black ring around the waterline.............new bath !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 dont do what i did once , and that is to wash and scrub your blackpowder barrells out in the bath.............the missus went BALLISTIC.....left an indelible black ring around the waterline.............new bath !! lol....been there brother! U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 fibre are a little dirtier than plastics but have you tried a payne brush works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shropshire_Lad Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 Just to add a little to this topic over the last twelve months I have been lucky enough to up grade my shotguns to a 20 bore and 12 bore Beretta. The 20 bore is a doddle to clean but the Optibore 12 bore is a total T**t !! exactly the same as a Silver Pigeon 111 I had. I have invested in a Payne fine bronze brush and Clenzoil ( works the best ever in the 20 bore ) as well as a chamber brush. All no use what so ever at getting the streaks out in front of the chamber of the 12 ?? I tried the cordless drill method and all was clean in a few seconds, what harm in the real world can a bronze brush do to a chromed barrel ? The first time I have done it to a new gun so I don't want to carry on if it is going to *uck it up any time soon ;-) I like the Idea of Clenzoil as it does not harm the stock or blacking of the barrels. atvb Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roscoc180 Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 I gave some of my Elay Firsts I had left to a friend with a Midland, no problem cleaning! My SP1 a sod to clean with these cartridges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 I'm guessing its the back bore so your not getting a good scrub with the bore brush, I find a chamber brush being bigger does those few inches nicy, failing that wire wool or even a scouring pad rolled up on a jag has done the job in the past with a liberal spray if wd40. Worked a treat and didn't harm the barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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