Had my 1st parking ticket today.......

[Imperfection]

 

 

I call BS on that one until a decent argument to support it is put forward.

 

J.

 

Then you would be quite wrong chap. You're not always right Jonathon.

[shoot and be safe]

They use abbreviations like PCN as a scare tactic,

 

Police/Council PCN = PENALTY Charge Notice, My advice would be to pay these.

Private firms (like Parking Eye) PCN = PARKING Charge Notice. Ignore them, you will receive many letters stating that the amount (mine went up to £400.00) will increase and then you will receive a letter from 2 debt collectors with the opportunity to pay at a reduced amount, (they dropped down to £120). I didn't answer any of them and have not heard a thing.

 

The other thing to bare in mind, is that they have to prosecute the driver of the vehicle and not the registered keeper.

 

The following link is a useful one to watch: -

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XAIcdi9niHA

 

Who was the issuing authority i.e. Police, Council or Private firm?

 

Hope this helps

[Paddy Galore!]

Be thankful it was only £35. I am incapable of getting the cheap ones. Haven't had one yet this month (as usually do by this point). I think I may have been caught in a yellow box yesterday though :(

i can vouch for the bloody wardens in london, £130 for not displaying a permit, it'd fallen on the seat by the way. tried to appeal, but they obviously don't read any of their letters as we had another through the post last month telling us it'd now gone up to £190! as we hadn't appealed, *******!

[Lampwick]

They use abbreviations like PCN as a scare tactic,

 

Police/Council PCN = PENALTY Charge Notice, My advice would be to pay these.

Private firms (like Parking Eye) PCN = PARKING Charge Notice. Ignore them, you will receive many letters stating that the amount (mine went up to £400.00) will increase and then you will receive a letter from 2 debt collectors with the opportunity to pay at a reduced amount, (they dropped down to £120). I didn't answer any of them and have not heard a thing.

 

The other thing to bare in mind, is that they have to prosecute the driver of the vehicle and not the registered keeper.

 

The following link is a useful one to watch: -

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XAIcdi9niHA

 

Who was the issuing authority i.e. Police, Council or Private firm?

 

Hope this helps

Went through he same with my wife! Ignored all the letters ended up with a "we are taking you to Nottingham Crown Court!! Lol 17th November. I was looking onward to the summons! Never happened unsurprisingly! It's gone away

[team tractor]

I almost punched a traffic warden in tamworth :(

I parked up at 5.55 and its free parking at 6 but he appeared and started writing :( I explained to him I'm just giving blood in the building next to the car park and showed him my form .

I had to drive off and wait for a few minutes which was the time it took to drive out and straight back in .

I made the local paper lol . I said to him I hope you need blood one day to which he rang the police .

I told the nurse inside and she told me they had put a ticket on the blood collection truck .

[shootgun]

 

 

If I am in the wrong and a warden catches me then fair enough, its the sodding CCTV ones that bug me.

 

I dont think I will get away with the yellow box, I could see the camera moving around towards me as I was sat there. Tried to get really close to the van in front which was high in the hope they couldnt catch the plate but we will see....

 

I know the flavour mate, most of the PCN's i've got, were due to the CCTV... i managed to succesfully apeal a few, as the cheeky ******** are giving tickets away for no reasons, hoping the people will just pay for them straight away...

 

If you saw the camera moving towards you, that's sucks... good luck anyway, just hope for the best

[jasper3]

well i know Devon county council need to cut another £100, million so they put in place a easy option...PARKING

[Pheasant Feeder]

The last one I got was from the local council, I'd put an hour on the ticket-the maximum allowed for a 30 minute dental appointment.

 

The dentist was running late and my appointment over ran due to problems, I wrote a letter of appeal citing the reasons and that at the time of the ticket expiring I had several pieces of dental equipment in my mouth, and that I couldn't reasonably be expected to move the vehicle, I ended the letter with the phrase "I believe if subjected to a Wednesbury Reasonableness test would be proven such".

 

They asked for a letter from the dentist to confirm this, which I duly provided.

 

I received a letter that read as if written through gritted teeth informing me that my appeal was successful.

 

If you have a genuine reason its worth appealing.

[leeds chimp]

They use abbreviations like PCN as a scare tactic,

 

Police/Council PCN = PENALTY Charge Notice, My advice would be to pay these.

Private firms (like Parking Eye) PCN = PARKING Charge Notice. Ignore them, you will receive many letters stating that the amount (mine went up to £400.00) will increase and then you will receive a letter from 2 debt collectors with the opportunity to pay at a reduced amount, (they dropped down to £120). I didn't answer any of them and have not heard a thing.

 

The other thing to bare in mind, is that they have to prosecute the driver of the vehicle and not the registered keeper.

 

The following link is a useful one to watch: -

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XAIcdi9niHA

 

Who was the issuing authority i.e. Police, Council or Private firm?

 

Hope this helps

 

oh dear oh dear....I hope you are not telling people this advice now....

 

the law changed in OCTOBER last year!!!!! they can now go after the reg vehicle owner....and they actually do go to court now...even though its all a threat

[keg]

A council in London has just been shown up as encouraging fraud amongst its wardens with false statements, wrongly dated photos and other nefarious means.

[shootgun]

One of my drivers got a PCN from a London City Council CCTV, while he was delivering in the City at 7 am, despite the big sign shown clearly next to the van, saying no loading mon-fri 8.30 - 10.30 am and 4.30 - 6.30 am... How cheeky is that?

[Clayduster]

If the lines are worn or faded on the road or kerb , if correct signage is not in place these are good grounds for appeal. Take pictures of any flaws you can for evidence, tell them you will produce them in court if they instigate proceedings. If the markings and signage are there pay up and be more careful.

[shoot and be safe]

 

oh dear oh dear....I hope you are not telling people this advice now....

 

the law changed in OCTOBER last year!!!!! they can now go after the reg vehicle owner....and they actually do go to court now...even though its all a threat

Thanks for the update. I wasn't aware of this.

 

However against a private firm I would let it ride and if that ment court so be it. I am sure they would, at some point, ask you to provide the name of the driver. At this point, I would point out that I would be working on their behalf and would charge accordingly, if they refuse to pay then a court order would be required. That way they have to work for their money.

[leeds chimp]

Thanks for the update. I wasn't aware of this.

 

However against a private firm I would let it ride and if that ment court so be it. I am sure they would, at some point, ask you to provide the name of the driver. At this point, I would point out that I would be working on their behalf and would charge accordingly, if they refuse to pay then a court order would be required. That way they have to work for their money.

they don't need the driver anymore...... just the reg keeper

[JonathanL]

nothing other than they don't needs to prove who was driving has changed, they do not and will not pursue any loss, all they can claim is a couple of bob that they paid to the dvla for your details and any loss of parking cost, IE 5 quid or whatever at most, even if it went to court which it wont that's all they could seek not the "you may" have to pay whatever sums they threaten you with.

 

 

KW

 

 

I know all this but they have altered the way in which they word the signage in private car parks. Previously, they used wording that suggested that you were being penalised if you over stayed, didn't buy a ticket or didn't park in accordance with the rules of the site. A penalty isn't enforcible at law and they would be bound to lose any case brought on that basis. All they could recover, for instance, is the unpaid for time if you over stayed.+

 

Recent wording that I have seen, however, (which I still don't think is that well written) suggests that, for instance, you are agreeing to pay a parking charge of, say, £75 to use the facility for more than one hour. That, if written properly, would seem to be enforcible to me. Yes, they would need to prove which particular individual they had contracted with, which might be a problem, but the contract its self would seem to be ok.

 

J.

[JonathanL]

 

Then you would be quite wrong chap. You're not always right Jonathon.

 

So, what is your legally reasoned argument to support it?

 

Just because a vehicle's wheels aren't touching the ground doesn't change the fact that it is waiting on double yellow lines.

 

J.

[Imperfection]

 

So, what is your legally reasoned argument to support it?

 

Just because a vehicle's wheels aren't touching the ground doesn't change the fact that it is waiting on double yellow lines.

 

J.

 

 

Its good that you're questioning a statement-children should do more of this.

 

If you really want to know, a traffic warden told us this...when we were stood in the basket of a cherry picker in central London on double yellow lines with all four outriggers extended so all six wheels were off the ground.He had just placed a ticket on our other vehicle (which would be quashed in time anyway) and when we asked if this one would get one too he said no and explained that the wheels were not on the road so he couldnt.

 

You dont always get to be right Jonathon.

[JonathanL]

 

 

Its good that you're questioning a statement-children should do more of this.

 

If you really want to know, a traffic warden told us this...when we were stood in the basket of a cherry picker in central London on double yellow lines with all four outriggers extended so all six wheels were off the ground.He had just placed a ticket on our other vehicle (which would be quashed in time anyway) and when we asked if this one would get one too he said no and explained that the wheels were not on the road so he couldnt.

 

You dont always get to be right Jonathon.

 

Or perhaps he just thought that the council would find it difficult to defend giving a ticket to a works vehicle carrying out what was, I assume, a job of public benefit?

 

Perhaps it is true that that particular type of vehicle might be exampt from parking tickets when being used like that. Doesn't mean that it's true of a private car though.

 

As I said, do you actually have evidence that this is the case or not because I still don't think it's the case.

 

J.

[Imperfection]

 

Or perhaps he just thought that the council would find it difficult to defend giving a ticket to a works vehicle carrying out what was, I assume, a job of public benefit?

 

Perhaps it is true that that particular type of vehicle might be exampt from parking tickets when being used like that. Doesn't mean that it's true of a private car though.

 

As I said, do you actually have evidence that this is the case or not because I still don't think it's the case.

 

J.

 

 

I suggest you read back aloud what you just wrote and then you will realise how silly it sounds.London meter maids will book anything which stops on double yellows or on a red route and they are very knowledgeable with the law. Our vehicles are ticketed regulary-unless its the cherry pickers which are parked.This isnt an isolated incident-its was just one i was involved in.

 

As for evidence? Why would i even bother even looking-you're the one trying to prove me wrong so i suggest you do some research if it grates on you that much.

[Gordon R]

Following the "logic" - based on the wheels not being on the floor, but still meriting a ticket - some might think a helicopter - hovering over yellow lines - should be ticketed.

[JonathanL]

 

 

I suggest you read back aloud what you just wrote and then you will realise how silly it sounds.London meter maids will book anything which stops on double yellows or on a red route and they are very knowledgeable with the law. Our vehicles are ticketed regulary-unless its the cherry pickers which are parked.This isnt an isolated incident-its was just one i was involved in.

 

As for evidence? Why would i even bother even looking-you're the one trying to prove me wrong so i suggest you do some research if it grates on you that much.

 

I have done and there isn't any evidence to back up what you are saying. Double yellow's mean 'no waiting at any time'. If your vehicle is jacked up it is still 'waiting', is it not?

[wymberley]

Now look what you've been and gone and done, Jasp. A seemingly innocent (not you of course - you're guilty as charged m'lud ) little post has turned into full on verbal warfare.

[Imperfection]

 

I have done and there isn't any evidence to back up what you are saying. Double yellow's mean 'no waiting at any time'. If your vehicle is jacked up it is still 'waiting', is it not?

 

 

and if a car sat on the back of a car transporter which is parked on double yellows...can that get a ticket?

 

Im speaking from experience with what i say because the traffic warden spoke to me Jonathan.This isnt second hand information or Chinese whispers or a bold statement plucked from thin air and i can assure you wardens in London and and do stick tickets on anything they possibly can.Honestly,if it bothers you that much then why not phone Boris Johnson up and ask him directly.

 

Like i said though,you dont always get to be right Jonathan!