neillfrbs Posted October 13, 2013 Report Share Posted October 13, 2013 because if it is like my spaniel will be off hunting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted October 13, 2013 Report Share Posted October 13, 2013 because if it is like my spaniel will be off hunting I think that sums up why spaniels are not the best choice of wildfowling dog! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncher Posted October 13, 2013 Report Share Posted October 13, 2013 could always train it to stay put ,not hard, cant stand any dog that runs in there is no need in any situation for it ,a well trained dog can be sent in seconds and pick up which ever bird is down and if your lucky enough to shoot 2 you can chose which one to pick first .also what if a seal turns up and your dogs run in I bet it wouldn't come back until it had got its retrieve. my rant over . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Croc Posted October 13, 2013 Report Share Posted October 13, 2013 (edited) why do you need to tie it up? When he gets bored he'll just decide to wander off and go for a swim and a walkabout, he doesn't run in though Edited October 13, 2013 by The Croc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neillfrbs Posted October 13, 2013 Report Share Posted October 13, 2013 my spaniel will sit still for a couple of hours but she don't enjoy it ,she wont run in but like has been said ,she aint a peg dog . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 Mostly show blood that bear no resemblance to working strains. Did you see the Yellow dog that won the Gundog section at Crufts? It was huge and fat. wont get a chocolate one then ,they all seem to be over weight as well . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geth25182889 Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 I have a springer and hes ace for wildfowling. the trick is to let them run around a bit rather than walk to heel on the way out to the marsh to get the sting out of their tail. he will sit completely still for hours after that, well apart from his tail which just dosnt stop!. if ive got decoys out, he will not take his eyes off them and just sits waiting until he gets a bird to retreive. im lucky with mine as he is a big lad and equally as big as any lab bitch that ive seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 Lab, golden , or chessie from a good breeder with all its papers. I personally would say chessies are the ultimate fowling dog ,staminer, determination, strong and a coat like no other! I dont know of anyone with a stronger swiming dog than her,apart from some other chessies but as said before not for the faint harted you have to keep one step ahead. Mine wont start fight but will stand up for her self and wont let anyone elses dogs steal my game.also i wouldnt call her aloof, but a one mans dog. I wouldnt get one tho if your new to fowling and arnt sure if youll like it as these are out and out workers. A lab would suit best if your new to the game and d!ecide its not for you! They certainly have a good coat, but so does a correctly bred Lab that is kept kennelled. As Labs are often kept indoors and its not important for a trial dog to have the true double waterproof coat SOME don't carry that trait in their breeding BUT they should by breed spec and it is totally water resistant. Literally only the top shell and the bald belly gets wet (as long as you don't shampoo all the natural oils out and leave them sleeping by the fire) Your Chessie is about the best natured I have seen, most others I have come across are downright dodgey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesneale89 Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 Personally it's a lab for me , but at the end of the day if a cocker,springer and a lab can do what you want it to do on the marsh and pick what you shoot in the harshest of conditions then it shouldn't matter on the breed as long as it works for you and your both happy then jobs a good un Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireboy Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 Over my wildfowling years, 54 of them to be exact, I have seen many types of dog used for wildfowling I even remember one guy who trained a German Shepherd to retrieve, it certainly had a firm grip but for me it has to be Labradors any colour except chocolate. Jim nothing wrong with choc labs if you can train a dog properly they are just as good as eny other colour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjm Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 Irish water spaniel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neillfrbs Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) looks like a big poodle though Edited October 14, 2013 by neillfrbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonychez Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 I almost went eith a water spaniel. Some good workers out there. But id say their coat lets them down over a lab or chessie. Nice to have something different tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncher Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 When he gets bored he'll just decide to wander off and go for a swim and a walkabout, he doesn't run in though To be honest years ago I had a yellow lab setter cross best gundog I ever trained ,but she would go for a walk when bored on a long flight ,had to keep an eye on her but she always managed to outsmart me ,says a lot about my iq. jules Irish water spaniel? my bro had one a while back wouldn't retrieve and bit people ,got run over he wasn't that sad about it sorted the problem for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperGoose75 Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 Irish water spaniel? Heres a link on them http://www.dognameswoof.com/blog/2007/02/boatswain-irish-water-spaniel.htm I have known many and they where all great Workers' A bit mad though and head strong. The coat is ideal for Fowling' the only prob with it is maintaining and caring for it. It all boils down to everyone's own preference and what he wants from a dog. For coastal fowling the Chessie for me has no equals. Your true fowler is an unsociable Character when it comes to Sport and prefers his own company. So me and my Dog are a perfect match. A lab Would be the most sensible choice if your new to the sport' but i prefer a Dog with Character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 I'm thinking of getting a Toller for my next dog they look ideal my friend has one its a very strong swimmer and completely unfazed by cold and conditions, it's also a cracking picking up dog on the shoot, a nice size as well not to small or big good looking dog also imo I'm thinking of getting a Toller for my next dog they look ideal my friend has one its a very strong swimmer and completely unfazed by cold and conditions, it's also a cracking picking up dog on the shoot, a nice size as well not to small or big good looking dog also imo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_Scotia_Duck_Tolling_Retriever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad63 Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 I'm thinking of getting a Toller for my next dog they look ideal my friend has one its a very strong swimmer and completely unfazed by cold and conditions, it's also a cracking picking up dog on the shoot, a nice size as well not to small or big good looking dog also imo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_Scotia_Duck_Tolling_Retriever I had one and would love another. Just can't justify £1k for a dog at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonychez Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 I woud be interested to hear about people with working duck tolls . I have never seen one work . A couple of pet ones up my way but they had to travel south for them. Bonny looking dog but looks like mud wouldnt mix with that soft long coat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 I had one and would love another. Just can't justify £1k for a dog at the moment I know I nearly paid that for my goldies worth every penny in my opinion, but really love there personality ideal in my opinion and something a little different than the common breeds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 They certainly have a good coat, but so does a correctly bred Lab that is kept kennelled. And then I keep mine on an old duvet in the corner of my room Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 I woud be interested to hear about people with working duck tolls . I have never seen one work . A couple of pet ones up my way but they had to travel south for them. Bonny looking dog but looks like mud wouldnt mix with that soft long coat They seem to be quite repellant to the mud for some reason very similar coat to my goldies which have no problems with the mud, they are a stunning dog like a small goldie really but a little more hyper, probably why it appeals to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad63 Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 Here's my old boy, lost him three years ago aged 13. He was a tad unpredictable but lived for fowling, he loved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) Here's my old boy, lost him three years ago aged 13. He was a tad unpredictable but lived for fowling, he loved it. Wow a lovely looking dog.... Edited October 14, 2013 by tigger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blakloks Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 I have a springer and hes ace for wildfowling. the trick is to let them run around a bit rather than walk to heel on the way out to the marsh to get the sting out of their tail. he will sit completely still for hours after that, well apart from his tail which just dosnt stop!. if ive got decoys out, he will not take his eyes off them and just sits waiting until he gets a bird to retreive. im lucky with mine as he is a big lad and equally as big as any lab bitch that ive seen. I'd agree with you there once they get a run about they are ok at sitting I trust my dogs reactions he sometimes sees things before me!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad63 Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 Oh I'll definitely get another one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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