houlsby Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Noticed my missis has started getting interested in having a pistol for target shooting (and, poss dropping me, but that's another thread) Is there still anyware in the uk you can turn up and shoot same as in America? I don't think she's after a desert eagle .50, think its just something she's wanting to do together, so any help would be appreciated. (P.s. I do realise that handguns are only for humane disp normally, but thought if ask) Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 I regret to say no there isn't. As you say, handguns for target shooting are a no no. Even those hoping to be selected for the next Olympics can't practice in this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikk Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 You can shoot black powder pistols, by all accounts it's a lot of fun but I am too lazy for all the cleaning that goes along with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhawk Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Or join a club and shoot a 22lr semi auto long barrel pistol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 (edited) The only part of the UK that handguns are allowed for target shooting is N Ireland. You would need to know someone in a club that could let you shoot as a guest. Edited November 17, 2013 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filzee Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Can't you also shoot them on the isle of white?? I used to love pistol shooting and make sure i go when ever on holiday but it is a no no now. Don't you need to have an FAC with section 5 pistol on it to even be able to shoot a long barrel pistol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenwolf Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Long Barrel revolver is on a section 1 ticket. you just apply for it the same as any other firearm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr smith Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 There's a club on Jersey where you can shoot pistols i believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Yes, simple on the Channel Islands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 There's a club on Jersey where you can shoot pistols i believe. Yep, been its great you have to complete a range course on .22lr before you can bigger. possible in a day but realistically takes 2 trips to the range (unless you spend all day there) http://www.jerseypistolclub.info/ OR go overseas add it to part of your next holiday perhaps you can shoot air pistols and not a bad way to learn the basics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alendil Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Go to poland there is lots of pay an go clubs and ranges standart charge is 10 gbp / h range stand and ammo for the gun i dont remember if there was charge to use club gun but it was about 25p/shot from glock 17. and you can go as far as ak47 etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mereside Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 you can shoot in northern ireland ,IOM, jersey and channel islands In IOM you can apply for overseas membership and i am assuming this to be the case in other locations. get on the ferry as foot passanger and taxis to the range save a car crossing which is not cheap, atb wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 As has been suggested....Northern Ireland or Isle of Man, or abroad UK you are restricted to airpistol...or black powder pistols on club guest days. Long barrel types are NOT exempt from club/range exemptions so can only be used by the FAC holder/owner. Section 5 type...forget it...you cannot even handle a Section 5 legally unless you hold a Section 5 permit. Good luck finding somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul2012 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 As has been suggested....Northern Ireland or Isle of Man, or abroad UK you are restricted to airpistol...or black powder pistols on club guest days. Long barrel types are NOT exempt from club/range exemptions so can only be used by the FAC holder/owner. Section 5 type...forget it...you cannot even handle a Section 5 legally unless you hold a Section 5 permit. Good luck finding somewhere half right, unless the club has them as club guns, i know this because i shoot a tarus .44mag lbr every time i go to my club as a probational member. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 half right, unless the club has them as club guns, i know this because i shoot a tarus .44mag lbr every time i go to my club as a probational member. Your club may need to check up on this There are similarly NO exemption for FAC shotguns - so HOW your club can get around it may be interesting. IF it was possible several clubs would follow suit... The ONLY exemption are the Westlake style that are made as carbines with removable stocks & the new Alfa revolver/carbine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 You can shoot black powder pistols, by all accounts it's a lot of fun but I am too lazy for all the cleaning that goes along with that. Correct, Chadderton Rifle and Pistol Club have a pistol calibre and black powder section. I haven't been myself but I am led to believe that it is great fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul2012 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Your club may need to check up on this There are similarly NO exemption for FAC shotguns - so HOW your club can get around it may be interesting. IF it was possible several clubs would follow suit... The ONLY exemption are the Westlake style that are made as carbines with removable stocks & the new Alfa revolver/carbine the club is fully aware of the law. This is legal but only if a club gun not a members gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 the club is fully aware of the law. This is legal but only if a club gun not a members gun. I'd be interested in seeing the exact wording on the club FAC - as I have not heard of LBRs on club tickets automatically giving Section 15 exemption to club members... IF it is worded correctly to cover ALL club members then I am surprised that more clubs don't own LBRs for members to use. The NRA advice I have read is: It is indeed down to the Chief Constable as to whether he grants a variation to acquire a LBR (or anything else) on a Club (or any other) FAC. That is covered by S27 Firearms Act 1968. The Chief Constable doing so does not affect the operation of S15 Firearms (Amendment) Act 1988.... The fact that a gun is on a Club FAC is not authority for someone to possess said gun without a FAC. As I have said before, I can envisage in theory a FAC being worded in such a way as to bring all members of a Club within its authority, but I have never seen or heard of that being done explicitly. To pin down the legal point here, under S1 Firearms Act 1968, to possess a firearm you either need to hold a Certificate or be exempt under the Acts from holding a Certificate. For rifles and MLPs and members of HO Approved clubs, S15 of the 1988 Act provides the exemption. The question in respect of other types of firearm then becomes whether a Certificate issued to a Club is, for the purposes of S1(1)(a) Firearms Act 1968, "held" by all members of the Club. If that were so, then for firearms (of any type) on the Club FAC club members would be entitled to possess. I have the impression that the NRA office would also be interested in how the club FAC is worded... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Is posses the same as use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I believe you can have a club which holds guns (pistols) exempted by virtue of being of historical importance and that gun can be fired by a club member; provided the member uses the gun on the SAME premises it is held. So if your RFD has an indoor range and a massive gun safe, club members can use them - and any other firearm from shotguns to carbines (assuming the indoor range is approved for such). Anyone can own such a gun (pistol) by applying to the S of S for an exemption but cannot personally hold them but must have them at an RFD's. Typical example would be a (Broom-handled Mauser 9 mm centrefire) I know of such a place but will see if there is any doubt raised first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
station Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I'd be interested in seeing the exact wording on the club FAC - as I have not heard of LBRs on club tickets automatically giving Section 15 exemption to club members... IF it is worded correctly to cover ALL club members then I am surprised that more clubs don't own LBRs for members to use. The NRA advice I have read is: I have the impression that the NRA office would also be interested in how the club FAC is worded... I'm with you on this saddler - we looked into have a club LBP and it was a no go. If anyone can show it's Ok then would appreciate the info. ATB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I believe you can have a club which holds guns (pistols) exempted by virtue of being of historical importance and that gun can be fired by a club member; provided the member uses the gun on the SAME premises it is held. So if your RFD has an indoor range and a massive gun safe, club members can use them - and any other firearm from shotguns to carbines (assuming the indoor range is approved for such). Anyone can own such a gun (pistol) by applying to the S of S for an exemption but cannot personally hold them but must have them at an RFD's. Typical example would be a (Broom-handled Mauser 9 mm centrefire) I know of such a place but will see if there is any doubt raised first. TRUE: Section 7 Historical exemption is another kettle of fish though...& a S.7 historical handgun is STILL a S.5 until added to an FAC Any links to which part of the Firearms Act cover the use of club guns in an historical context? Things must have changed since my last H.B.S.A. meeting The main point is/was the lack of Section 15 exemption for Section 1 LBR-type firearms. Having one as a "club gun" as a means around S.15 is doubtful at best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul2012 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Haven't a clue, My feo seems to think everything is in order so as far as I'm concerned its legal. The club is a fullbore club with a large amount of pistol/revolver and blackpowder shooters. I don't get why some people get so hung up on all these laws. Ultimately if the club secratary says i can then i can. If it went to court i fail to see what i would have done wrong. Best advice i could offer anybody who wants to try is to find a club and ask if they have a club lbr you could shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul2012 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 TRUE: Section 7 Historical exemption is another kettle of fish though...& a S.7 historical handgun is STILL a S.5 until added to an FAC Any links to which part of the Firearms Act cover the use of club guns in an historical context? Things must have changed since my last H.B.S.A. meeting The main point is/was the lack of Section 15 exemption for Section 1 LBR-type firearms. Having one as a "club gun" as a means around S.15 is doubtful at best if its on a club fac why cant probational members use it? Does this also apply to .22lr? Its not making sense to me how this works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houlsby Posted November 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 GUYS! I'm i getting the point here in that there IS places I can go shoot a handgun by joining a club? If so.... Can anyone point me in the right direction within say... 50 miles of doncaster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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