Steve_in_Devon Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I was wondering how easy it is to attract wood pigeons into a field. I have a grass field behind me, that I am able to use to shoot pigeons if I can get them there. I have seem a few flying around and in the woods at the top of the field. I was wondering how easy it is the get them into the field. I have though about putting some of my chicken feed down. Any advice would be great, as I am new to this. I would be looking to shoot them with an air rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubby Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 (edited) its great to see that someone wants to shoot and has read the terms of the general licence and seen that its against the law to use seed to attract birds down, and that wood pigeons can ONLY be shot as pest control and not for sport, oopp's, no you aint done that Edited November 19, 2013 by stubby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Good one stubby and spot on. However I have heard of some 'sporting' Agents broadcasting peas and beans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_in_Devon Posted November 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Thats one of the reasons I am on here to find out. The field behind me is surrounded by farm fields and there is also a pheasant shoot in the fields around me. The game keeper was wanting some of the pigeons shot as they eat so much of the pheasant feed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Well get the gamekeeper's permission and go and sit on one of his feed rides and shoot the pigeons. You may also do him a favour by shooting any rats, squirrels and other vermin you may see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I find that wearing a nice hat will bring the wood pigeons in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filzee Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Good that you asked the question as thats the main reason these forums are here. Unfortunately as already said you cant feed them in. The best thing is to either find a flight line you can get underneath or find what fields they are feeding on and try to get on there. Good chance the keeper won't want you shooting anywhere near his feed rides, cover crops or woods where he has birds so its a tricky situation. I'm sure there are some folk that feed the pigeons as it were but it is a big no no so i wouldn't advise it. Good Luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubby Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 The game keeper was wanting some of the pigeons shot as they eat so much of the pheasant feed. again, that would be seen as coaxing them in, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_in_Devon Posted November 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I guess so, but they coming there anyway. Why does putting decoys down, to make the other birds think there is something there not count as coaxing them in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 you need some Lovey Dovey tm http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/203150-exciting-new-decoying-gadget-free-trial-available/?hl=%2Blovey+%2Bdovey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_in_Devon Posted November 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 you need some Lovey Dovey tm http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/203150-exciting-new-decoying-gadget-free-trial-available/?hl=%2Blovey+%2Bdovey And thats not considered coaxing them in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I guess so, but they coming there anyway. Why does putting decoys down, to make the other birds think there is something there not count as coaxing them in? Because it is LEGAL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 might be worth reading the whole thread. just use some decoys - you don't have to be shooting them on the crop they are feeding on - you can be doing it for preventative reasons elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonblasterian Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 you need some Lovey Dovey tm http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/203150-exciting-new-decoying-gadget-free-trial-available/?hl=%2Blovey+%2Bdovey And thats not considered coaxing them in? You need to look at the date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 My advice would be to go on the BASC website and check the terms of the general licence to keep you legal, and to avoid any spikey responses on forums. Shooting laws can be a bit odd so it's best to be informed, even if they seem a bit random like; you can't entice a wild pigeon with food but you can entice wild ducks, you can't shoot a pigeon to eat but you can shoot a goose, that may be arriving after flying thousands of miles, for no reason at all, and no shooting certain species on Sundays etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caeser Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 its great to see that someone wants to shoot and has read the terms of the general licence and seen that its against the law to use seed to attract birds down, and that wood pigeons can ONLY be shot as pest control and not for sport, oopp's, no you aint done that I think you're being a little harsh here, as I've read it. The poor guy is only asking for advice. Thats what we're here for isn't it, to help out newbies and advise where we can. I'd be curious to know how many people on here took up the sport, and read all the laws and rules etc, and knew exactly what they were doing before firing a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFC Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I have read the General licences for protection of crops and for Protection of Public Health and I cannot find any statement in those licences that forbids the use of grain or seeds to attract Woodpigeon to be shot. It does not state that the crop, or land, should be specified i.e the Woodpigeon will, at some point, cause damage to a crop albeit on a property other than the one I am shooting over and that is sufficient. I may be wrong about this and, if I am, I would like to be pointed to the specific legislation. http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/Images/wml-gl04_tcm6-24149.pdf http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/ourwork/regulation/wildlife/licences/generallicences.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I think you're being a little harsh here, as I've read it. The poor guy is only asking for advice. Thats what we're here for isn't it, to help out newbies and advise where we can. I'd be curious to know how many people on here took up the sport, and read all the laws and rules etc, and knew exactly what they were doing before firing a shot. ++1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 its great to see that someone wants to shoot and has read the terms of the general licence and seen that its against the law to use seed to attract birds down, and that wood pigeons can ONLY be shot as pest control and not for sport, oopp's, no you aint done that Oh give it a break, the sarcasm is completely unnecessary. The OP asked a perfectly reasonable novice question and gets a childish response. Steve-in-devon..... With regard to shooting pigeons and anything else on the general licence, you have to comply with the terms of it. There are three sections to the licence that allow you to kill birds. in the case of woodpigeons, the first two are relevant. See here and have a thorough read. 1) http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/Images/wml-gl04_tcm6-24149.pdf 2) http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/Images/wml-gl05_tcm6-24150.pdf 3) http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/Images/wml-gl06_tcm6-24151.pdf You have to work within the criteria contained above to be legally shooting pigeons or any other quarry on the list. Also technically you are not allowed to shoot them for sporting purposes, only fulfilling the above licence criteria. This is where in all honesty, it gets iffy at best. Most pigeon shooters do it because they enjoy it. With maybe the exception of the odd farmer that has to do it, when he has better things to do with his day. There is an argument that in roost shooting, decoying on stubble, flighting them etc,etc, whilst they are not causing damage to crops, you can shoot them on the basis you are preventing them from doing so. (Licence 1 above) . So in short, baiting them you can't do. However, you are fully entitled to shoot them to: "Prevent serious damage to livestock, foodstuffs for livestock, crops, vegetables, fruit, growing timber, fisheries or inland waters, and (ii) Prevent the spread of disease" Again, technically, there isn't a heading here on the licence that specifies you can shoot them on the gamekeepers feeders, however, you would be able to under the "prevent" term Well done for asking, hope this helps and welcome to the forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Richo Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Am sure the country has got bigger problems than someone putting down a handfull of chicken feed if your discreet am sure it won't be a problem not exactly crime of the century! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flynny Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I think you're being a little harsh here, as I've read it. The poor guy is only asking for advice. Thats what we're here for isn't it, to help out newbies and advise where we can. I'd be curious to know how many people on here took up the sport, and read all the laws and rules etc, and knew exactly what they were doing before firing a shot. + 1 Spot on Ceasar , The smart Alec self righteous members just love to show there superiority to new members, it's really helpfull NOT!!!!!!!!!!!! Atb Flynny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonblasterian Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 + 1 Spot on Ceasar , The smart Alec self righteous members just love to show there superiority to new members, it's really helpfull NOT!!!!!!!!!!!! Atb Flynny Totally agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goober Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 ++1 +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAYBURN Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 + 1 Spot on Ceasar , The smart Alec self righteous members just love to show there superiority to new members, it's really helpfull NOT!!!!!!!!!!!! Atb Flynny + 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 + 1 Spot on Ceasar , The smart Alec self righteous members just love to show there superiority to new members, it's really helpfull NOT!!!!!!!!!!!! Atb Flynny well said that man we all were beginners once, well most of us were colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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