MrHarrison Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 I'm after a new terrier, for ratting, digging and to take out shooting with me. But it needs to be good with childeren. I'm considering a lakeland terrier , I have had in the past jack Russell's. They have been an all around good dog but a little bit too fiesty/cocky! Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazbev Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 I know someone who has a Plummer and it's an out and out killer,I like patterdales,hard workers and scared of nothing and love the look of them but with Kids I'm not sure.I had a border and they are known to be late starters and mine was a gem with the kids but a real good worker,be sure to buy working lines,my mate bought a non working border and it was a little thing with a squashed nose,I bought from working lines and it was athletic with a deep chest and would go all day. Just be sure what you are buying,they are scared of nothing but having a JRT you know that,I trained to a decent standard,not easy with a terrier,it's a buyers market,I would love another one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 I would second the border...brilliant little dogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tharsus Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 Got a lakie here who has been brought up with my grandson (15 months) they love each other, cracking dog and not as highly strung as most russells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 kept plummers for 12 yrs and finding one for real hard earth work ets harder and harder, you here of one minute wonders . i would look for a working bred black dog, but finding someone to part with a well bred pup could be difficult. have a look in the countrymens weekly for brain nuttels number Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mochastorm Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 It seems to be a big ask. Ratting, digging dog, shooting and good with kids. There are plenty of well bred lines of black or red terriers that will do earth work, and fulfil the ratting role. Good Russell's are harder to find, and a good Border even rarer. You also want something good around kids, which maybe the most difficult. If you want something good with kids and knocking about on the shoot a Border probably comes the closest, although I would never fully trust any of them around kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proudly Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 Real borders are few & far between if you intend digging, you may waste 2yrs rearing/training only to find its no good. Plenty of russells out there but again its finding a decent pup. Lakeys can be headstrong & gassy, plummers again hit & miss as digging dogs. Patterdales best bet IMO but finding the best breeding is the difficult part, maybe not as difficult if you only intend to dig occasionally. As to trusting dogs, we're talking terriers here not pit bulls. Socialising is the key, I personally would never trust ANY dog 100% with kids but fetching dogs/kids up to respect each other is the key Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 I've got pat/border crosses, the oldest is a real good worker who is laying on his back in front of the fire snoring at the moment! Soft as **** unless your name is roland or charlie. I can put food down for him and take it away again no problem at all as i can with all of mine but i wouldn't trust them 100% with kids, there can be only one boss! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHarrison Posted December 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 Thanks for the feedback everybody. Anybody know any good breeders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 We have a jack russel and he is as camp as a row of tents ! He wouldnt work for anything other than a bag of chips and is scared of carrier bags, and another guy I know breeds nice borders and they are soft as much but go out shooting with him all the time ! ATB Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKG 1976 Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 Pm sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjh Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 i have a Jack Russell / Manchester Terrier cross fantastic ratting dog happy to take a rabbit, great temperament with kids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek.snr Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 border/lakey cross ,Russell ,all terriers are fairly mad ,but I find plummers a bit too strange avoid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 A fiery terrier at work should not mean aggressive in the house. Socialisation is key, better get them as puppies and have them in playing with the kids under supervision from the get go. I have not owned many terriers but once had one that was a total nut for killing all manner of vermin above or below ground. never ever picked a fight with any other dog but finished many - with kids? well they could do just about anything to him and often did BUT he was raised around them (lots of them) from a tiny puppy. To be fair I think he might rank as my most reliable and trustworthy dog around kids ever but like I say exposed from an early age daily. Even the lab although very solid with kids (again I made a real effort to expose him a lot early) has the one fault in this regards as he worries over my youngest 8yr old and might I fear protect her against another child in play. Children and dogs should never the less be supervised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferret47 Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 MrHarrison, I keep (and work Terriers). This (web) site is far far more normal than most hunting sites but still? Kent is totally totally right when he/she says its all about socialisation, I keep digging terriers and around the house they are great, no aggression, Mine are broke to birds and ferrets but when shown to quarry they are mental, my oldest terrier ( and Hardest) sleeps with my son, All dogs reflect their owners personality, so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wj939 Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 For me it would have to be a JRT. All day long as an all rounder I don't think you'll find a better one. My old dog knew when beating meant staying close and not to try and eat pheasants. Rabbiting was a different story she knew she could go far enough ahead, but fantastic character and the only dog I have ever full trusted with kids. I would recommend Chapman lines for what your looking for or a 1st cross from a Chapman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Take your wallet there then,nice old guy but in it for fame and the money now sadly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wj939 Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) I wouldn't say he's just for the fame. Id recommend the dogs all day. But certainly you will find cheaper terriers. As with anything the bigger the reputation the larger the price tag. 😖 Shame though as there probably won't be many more like him once he's gone. Edited January 9, 2014 by wj939 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Also depends if you ask for a dog to work Fox or a dog to show,he keeps both.showy stuff is picked out at birth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spadoch Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Anyone with a spaniel bitch who would be interested in crossing to a very good Border dog please get in touch. When I say good I mean great hunting ability and very hard below ground. Non aggressive with other dogs .I think it would make a great cross. I cant hunt him too much because i loose him to ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 He is hard but you don't work him often because you lose him to ground. Buy a bellman and flint locator system and learn how to dig the poor ****** out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrawny40 Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 I have two borders, soft as muck with kids, but the toughest little workers I've ever had. mention Charlie, Rolland or bugsy and they go into a frenzy. and not shy of the gun. top dogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spadoch Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 He is hard but you don't work him often because you lose him to ground. Buy a bellman and flint locator system and learn how to dig the poor ******* out. This dog is a serious digging dog. He will enter anywhere and try to kill whatever is in there,which is why you have to be careful where you let the dog hunt loose.He is dug to on a regular basis. I appreciate you not having these problems keeping plummers but when you have little dogs that are too game for there own health then you have to be responsible. I wouldnt put this dog out to stud to the majority of Border bitches but I would like something off him to hunt cover that was a bit large for getting to ground.This is not a money making venture I should add and our pure kc Borders are never sold but kept by ourselves which is why they are a good strain..I hope that clears things up.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 my old plummer ... wouldnt keep one that didnt do fox work sadly pts 3 yrs ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Jagdterrier fierce little workers. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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