rrw Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 hi recently purchased a al391 tenkys beretta semi auto and used it twice so far. was shooting at recent shoot old guy behind me said i was shooting over the top so lowered barrel by 2 foot at 20 yards below target he said i was still shooting over the top? does any one else have this problem and if so how did you over com e it? i sold a beretta 302 and could hit most things with it so its not a case of a semi auto please any advice greatly welcomed. also does any one know if you can purchase shims for the gun that are bigger than the ones in the gun? thanks mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Unless your barrel is visibly bent upwards it will NOT be shooting 2 foot high for anyone, the chap involved ought to have his own Enfield sketch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remmyman Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Unless your barrel is visibly bent upwards it will NOT be shooting 2 foot high for anyone, the chap involved ought to have his own Enfield sketch. +1 Just shoot it on a pattern plate, simples Regards remmyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 The shims crop up on E*ay or try your local gunshop. You might consider shooting at a pattern plate to see if you are shooting high. I wouldn't start buying shims until someone I trusted - and knew what they were talking about in terms of gunfit - advised me. If you see the same man again - wait until he shoots - stand behind him and when he misses one, say "you were over the top with that one" or the other favourite "you were behind that one", until he gets the message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Brilliant for driven stuff find the positive in this Enjoy your new gun My opinion ( worthless realy) is that every person watching you says your behind infront over the top or underneath Listen to the fella who quietly says ( why you missed ) ie lean a bit int your gun set yourself up for the shot move your foot a bit Oh and try it on a pattern plate All the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 If your mounting well, put 6 shells onto the pattern plate without aiming just shooting were you look. This will confirm were you gun is shooting, try it at near, mid and longer range. Then either adapt your sight picture or adjust the gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Over 2 foot ok not convinced has the bloke been to spec savers? Get some who know how to use a pattern plate to have a quick look for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehb102 Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Your problem is with unsolicited advice from people who have more confidence in their own opinions than is warranted. My husband has a gun that fits, but is inclined to shoot over the top of things because he lifts his head. This opinion was given to him by someone whose opinion I think I can trust. I share it with you in case you are doing the same thing. The pattern plate calls methinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMMER BURT Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 i would put 500 carts though the gun before any adjustment's made it may just be that at the moment you dont really know were the gun is shooting to were you think you are aiming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ears Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Best advise I can give you is to pattern plate the gun. find some ones who really knows to help you a coach/instructor from your local clay ground etc. People giving opinions are to be taken with a pinch of salt unless you know these guys are good quality shotswith plenty of experience. There are plenty of know alls in shooting but not many that know all. best of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sipe-ist Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 You should certainly get advice from a professional or at least someone who's opinion you can trust. I also think putting several hundred shots through it before doing anything drastic is sensible because I think it is also common to divert your focal attention back to the gun and not the target when using a new gun. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Your problem is with unsolicited advice from people who have more confidence in their own opinions than is warranted. My husband has a gun that fits, but is inclined to shoot over the top of things because he lifts his head. This opinion was given to him by someone whose opinion I think I can trust. I share it with you in case you are doing the same thing. The pattern plate calls methinks. I have a habit of doing this too.... Not as easy to solve as gunfit..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Your problem is with unsolicited advice from people who have more confidence in their own opinions than is warranted. My husband has a gun that fits, but is inclined to shoot over the top of things because he lifts his head. This opinion was given to him by someone whose opinion I think I can trust. I share it with you in case you are doing the same thing. The pattern plate calls methinks. actually it is solicited, the lifting the head is a correct point but so can many other mounting or handling faults exist. A gun is not normally fitted before a consistent good mount is in place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFC Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 I used to miss over the top because the length of pull of my semi-auto was too short. I put a butt pad on it which had the effect of keeping the muzzle down and this solved the problem. Only my experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 If in doubt see a coach who can put you straight, I lift my head sometimes on low fast crossers, sometimes I just have truly awful days, each time a coach has put me right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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