timmytree Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 I donate a small part of my wages to charity every month despite being on near minimum wage, I don't mind that money being used where it's needed, I do object to my taxes being used to support whole families in this country that don't want to work and have never worked. I graft to afford luxuries that too many lazy **** in this country take for granted through social security benefits. Genuine cases fine, but we all know families that avoid work like the plague! The lower paid jobs in this country are taken by immigrants and they graft! Farming, the health system, labouring and lots more are supported and maintained by foreigners who contribute a damn sight more than many British skivers. A relatively small number of Syrians won't make a bit of difference to this country except that they'll take some of the jobs that native Brits are too bloody idle to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) I think any decent minded person would agree with you, the level of moronic responses beggars belief.Comments are only moronic when they are not of your way of looking at it or your beliefs. I for one don't think it's anything to do with us regardless of what's gone on. We each have our views and what we believe should be. Figgy Edited January 29, 2014 by figgy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Comments are only moronic when they are not of your way of looking at it or your beliefs. I for one don't think it's anything to do with us regardless of what's gone on. We each have our views and what we believe should be. Figgy your right we all have views, but sadly some have no levels to which they will not sink. KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconBoy Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simjakcal Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 give it another 10/20yrs and we will have our own civil war on our own doorstep ! it will be interesting to see which countries-if any left ! help us out then ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Now first of all i agree that no child should live in poverty and it is wrong it happens in the uk.BUT, Poverty in the uk is classed as in a family where the income is less than £15000 a year,these families do though receive the basics and the children get free school meals so at least one hot meal a day is provided,they live in a country that is reasonably stable and has good utilities, there is fresh drinking water and also free health care.Now as terrible as being in poverty in this country is there is a system there to catch you , make sure you think about children in a conflict zone. No medical care no fresh water no education no house,but a tent is ok in the snow isn't it? limited food, some on what they can scavenge or the red cross can supply, usually a bag of rice per family A chance of being killed every day, with a probability that at least one adult member of your family is already dead(usually the father) A chance if you are female of being raped A chance if you are on the wrong side of the street of your whole family being murdered by the enemy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Now first of all i agree that no child should live in poverty and it is wrong it happens in the uk.BUT, Poverty in the uk is classed as in a family where the income is less than £15000 a year,these families do though receive the basics and the children get free school meals so at least one hot meal a day is provided,they live in a country that is reasonably stable and has good utilities, there is fresh drinking water and also free health care.Now as terrible as being in poverty in this country is there is a system there to catch you , make sure you think about children in a conflict zone. No medical care no fresh water no education no house,but a tent is ok in the snow isn't it? limited food, some on what they can scavenge or the red cross can supply, usually a bag of rice per family A chance of being killed every day, with a probability that at least one adult member of your family is already dead(usually the father) A chance if you are female of being raped A chance if you are on the wrong side of the street of your whole family being murdered by the enemy Thats all good and well but if they do come here they are most likely going to bring their muslamic ray guns with them and then its only a matter of time before ze revolution kicks off..... This country just cant support a few hundred extra people, its an island you know, it could sink! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootnfish Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Im not saying we shouldn't help these women and children , but if roles were reversed i doubt very much that Syria or any other middle eastern country would be sending us £600 million pounds or taking us into their country and looking after us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 ...but someone would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootnfish Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Yes they would but no middle eastern countries would ,didn't say know one would did i. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 what are you lot talking about there's loads of examples of countries taking our refugees throughout history, Australia, India, the Caribbean... the list goes on and on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 I think any decent minded person would agree with you, the level of moronic responses beggars belief. Comments are only moronic when they are not of your way of looking at it or your beliefs. I for one don't think it's anything to do with us regardless of what's gone on. We each have our views and what we believe should be. Figgy I don't consider all comments that differ from my own views are moronic. However, I think that comments that have no shred of human compassion, do not come from a decent minded person. Some of the comments made on this thread I consider, "foolish, mindless and/or stupid" , which is the definition of moronic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmytree Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Yes they would but no middle eastern countries would ,didn't say know one would did i. You'll probably find most of the Syrians know the difference in English Language between "know" and "no" unlike many already here. No doubt their English is better than your knowledge of their language or ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castletyne Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 You'll probably find most of the Syrians know the difference in English Language between "know" and "no" unlike many already here. No doubt their English is better than your knowledge of their language or ours. Is that the best you can come up with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootnfish Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Get a life Timmytree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpentermark Posted January 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) SIX KEY FACTS Net migration quintupled from 50,000 in 1997 to 250,000 in 2010. Nearly 4 million immigrants have arrived since 1997. Net migration fell to 176,000 in the year to December 2012 as government policies took effect. A migrant arrives almost every minute but they leave at only just over half that rate. We must build a new home every seven minutes for new migrants. England is already, with the Netherlands, the most crowded country in Europe, excluding island and city states. The population of the UK will grow by over 7 million to 70 million in the next 15 years, 5 million due to immigration - that is the equivalent of the current populations of Birmingham, Leeds, Glasgow, Sheffield, Bradford, Manchester, Liverpool, Bristol and Oxford. To keep the population of the UK, now 62.3 million, below 70 million, net immigration must be reduced to around 40,000 a year. It would then peak in mid-century at about 68 million. Revised September 2013. (taken from web) Now im not against helping anyone in need but, there has to be a time when we realise that jumping in and trying to save everybody from all over the world whenever something happens whether it be war or natural disaster cannot be sustained whilst this country is in economic turmoil! We have cut budgets everywhere, hospitals, elderly care, care for the mentally ill, education etc etc yet we continue to find £millions for other countries issues?! I just cant comprehend why we would continue pouring money we supposedly haven't got out of the country at the detriment of our own communities? So whilst people in this country are being flooded out of there homes, children being educated in schools that are falling down, the elderly freezing to death in their arm chairs because they cant afford heating and food and patients waiting to die in hospital corridors because of lack of beds all because of this, and previous governments incompetence I'm sorry but i honestly believe we should be taking care of these issues first! Charity begins at home, rather than fighting a moral war around the world we should be doing everything we can from saving this country resulting in its own civil war!!! Edited January 29, 2014 by carpentermark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neillfrbs Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 we can bleat all we like ,what is going to happen is going to happen whether we like it or not . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 we can bleat all we like ,what is going to happen is going to happen whether we like it or not . Hardly the basis for a good debate though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmytree Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 SIX KEY FACTS Net migration quintupled from 50,000 in 1997 to 250,000 in 2010. Nearly 4 million immigrants have arrived since 1997. Net migration fell to 176,000 in the year to December 2012 as government policies took effect. A migrant arrives almost every minute but they leave at only just over half that rate. We must build a new home every seven minutes for new migrants. England is already, with the Netherlands, the most crowded country in Europe, excluding island and city states. The population of the UK will grow by over 7 million to 70 million in the next 15 years, 5 million due to immigration - that is the equivalent of the current populations of Birmingham, Leeds, Glasgow, Sheffield, Bradford, Manchester, Liverpool, Bristol and Oxford. To keep the population of the UK, now 62.3 million, below 70 million, net immigration must be reduced to around 40,000 a year. It would then peak in mid-century at about 68 million. Revised September 2013. (taken from web) Now im not against helping anyone in need but, there has to be a time when we realise that jumping in and trying to save everybody from all over the world whenever something happens whether it be war or natural disaster cannot be sustained whilst this country is in economic turmoil! We have cut budgets everywhere, hospitals, elderly care, care for the mentally ill, education etc etc yet we continue to find £millions for other countries issues?! I just cant comprehend why we would continue pouring money we supposedly haven't got out of the country at the detriment of our own communities? So whilst people in this country are being flooded out of there homes, children being educated in schools that are falling down, the elderly freezing to death in their arm chairs because they cant afford heating and food and patients waiting to die in hospital corridors because of lack of beds all because of this, and previous governments incompetence I'm sorry but i honestly believe we should be taking care of these issues first! Charity begins at home, rather than fighting a moral war around the world we should be doing everything we can from saving this country resulting in its own civil war!!! And that I can mostly agree with, the trouble is that no one wants the low paid welfare jobs as carers, working in the NHS etc, Brits won't go and work picking cabbages and sprouts, it's left to immigrants to fill those jobs. The older our population gets the more we need young immigrants to support our future pension rights and keep us going. After all, we can't depend on half of our youngsters slobbing round the streets with their boxers showing and the **** of their jeans round their knees can we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmytree Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Is that the best you can come up withNo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Get a life Timmytree What, a life of knowing less? The phrase "get a life" is used, rather ironically, by people who are particularly inept at almost any aspect of actual life. It's usually used as the last refuge of someone who doesn't actually understand the thing that is being discussed. For example, if they overheard two particle physicists at a party discussing particle physics, they'd probably walk away shaking their head saying "get a life." What "get a life" actually means is, "I'm too stupid to understand this conversation." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmytree Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Get a life Timmytree Would you care to explain exactly what that quotation means? Purely for the benefit of our Syrian friends and any others that may be perplexed by nonsensical language. "timmytree" is without the first capital letter, no need as it is not a proper noun. Observation is the key. What, a life of knowing less? The phrase "get a life" is used, rather ironically, by people who are particularly inept at almost any aspect of actual life. It's usually used as the last refuge of someone who doesn't actually understand the thing that is being discussed. For example, if they overheard two particle physicists at a party discussing particle physics, they'd probably walk away shaking their head saying "get a life." What "get a life" actually means is, "I'm too stupid to understand this conversation." A like minded person in the floodtide of ignorance and uneducated squalor. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootnfish Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 I mean you must be pretty sad to go round picking holes in peoples grammar. Its got nothing to do with this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castletyne Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Would you care to explain exactly what that quotation means? Purely for the benefit of our Syrian friends and any others that may be perplexed by nonsensical language. "timmytree" is without the first capital letter, no need as it is not a proper noun. Observation is the key. A like minded person in the floodtide of ignorance and uneducated squalor. Thank you! Well its time to leave it now this type of **** is starting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) A like minded person in the floodtide of ignorance and uneducated squalor. Thank you! You're welcome. 'Get a life' is a phrase I detest, and for good reason. It's exclusively used by people who lack the intellectual capacity to further an argument and resort to name-calling. Get a life? Irony-tastic. Edited January 29, 2014 by Thunderbird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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