mr_magicfingers Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Fella's,look at your life,wife,kids etc and decide if its worth it. F. I look at my girlfriend every day. I look at my bike every day. I love them both, wouldn't be without either. Been riding 29 years, no plans on stopping, been through rocket ships, tourers and dirt bikes, been an instructor, been a courier, commuted, toured and occasionally raced. I also think about the extra 2 hours a day driving my car would add to my commute and get right back on my bike Nothing calms me down and makes me smile at either end of the day in the way riding my bike does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) A car is a mode of transport-a bike is a way of life. Unless you have felt the acceleration and scared yourself ****less a couple of hundred times then you will never understand the rush that a superbike force feeds you every time the sun comes out and you have daylight to burn. I am in the enviable position where I only ride when I want to escape the inevitable doldrums of modern life but I cannot imagine life without the thrill of just sliding open the garage door and seeing her sitting there...... Edited February 3, 2014 by bruno22rf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
955i Posted February 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Yes modern bikes are fast, so are modern cars but they both have massively better brakes, suspension, engines and tyres than in days of old. Loads more people ride bikes these days since they became reliable, just like the modern cars. You have to remember that not all bikes are firebreathing rocket ships. A vespa is a bike, as are all the different little (and not so little) scooters you see around the place. There's all size and shape of bikes out there used for everything from commuting to work to disappearing off round the world. Think about Ewan and Charlie's Long Way Round and Long Way Down series and the amount of new people that put on bikes and the fact that it lead to the BMW R1150GS becoming the best selling bike in Britain, outselling everything including the fast shiny bikes. Admittedly most of them will never see a dirt road but it does show that good product placement certainly pays Some of us never stopped riding and I certainly see plenty out on my daily commute, though less over the winter that's for sure. Sorry, but a Vespa is NOT a bike. It is a scooter (like a child's toy ) :lol: had a few scrapes and near misses on them two wheeled petrol driven infernal machines. Only ever had racers as bikes till my teens then a bmx and back to a racer. Had a mountain bike as an adult for a while. Only bike that interests me now is a quad bike with four wheels and then only offroad. Figgy Maybe you should have learnt to ride properly and then you may have a different stance ex-cbr400rr ex-zzr6 ex-pan1100 ex-gsxr6 you ride on 2 wheels and you will dictate your future-ride for pleasure and you'll do ok.ride like its a freakin n'berg lap and you'll end up 2nd best. Fella's,look at your life,wife,kids etc and decide if its worth it. F. Sorry, thought I was quoting someone else's post You may have an accident shooting so best give it up now mate B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Bikes are fast and dangerous. Fact. I love them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
955i Posted February 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Bikes are fast and dangerous. Fact. I love them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 You are so wrong catweazle-peoples is wot is fast and dangerous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) You are so wrong catweazle-peoples is wot is fast and dangerous Hmmmm sometimes it is people wot isn't paying attention to other road users wot is dangerous. Speed isn't dangerous until it comes to an unplanned abrupt halt. Our lives will all end eventually, depends how much fun each of us want to have before that happens innit? Edited February 4, 2014 by old rooster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Why are there no adverts for suicide pills they are much the same thing in the end look at how many mostly middle aged men was killed on our roads and do not come back with the excuse that it was other people on the road that was to blame the chap on the motorbike is still dead or missing some parts like legs and arms etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
955i Posted February 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) Why are there no adverts for suicide pills they are much the same thing in the end look at how many mostly middle aged men was killed on our roads and do not come back with the excuse that it was other people on the road that was to blame the chap on the motorbike is still dead or missing some parts like legs and arms etc. How many were there? And over what time period? You need to provide some figures to back up that comment! Edited February 4, 2014 by 955i Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_magicfingers Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Why are there no adverts for suicide pills they are much the same thing in the end look at how many mostly middle aged men was killed on our roads and do not come back with the excuse that it was other people on the road that was to blame the chap on the motorbike is still dead or missing some parts like legs and arms etc. We advertise alcohol and tobacco (or used to until very recently) they kill waaaaay more people than bikes ever do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Why are there no adverts for suicide pills they are much the same thing in the end look at how many mostly middle aged men was killed on our roads and do not come back with the excuse that it was other people on the road that was to blame the chap on the motorbike is still dead or missing some parts like legs and arms etc. There are many other forms of enjoyment that carry risks with them, it is all down to how the individual views the risk/reward ratio innit? Shuey drove a racing car for many years, he was a dangerous driver and surprisingly didn't manage to kill anybody during his career but he is now in hospital looking a tad groggy after a skiing accident. You could probably retire into a cotton wool padded room and die eventually of boredom, dribbling down the front of your pullover or get out there and give it some serious large! I've been riding bikes for over 40 years now, raced F2 sidecars for a few years, did trials riding, plenty of track days, lots of continental touring etc. etc. and had a GREAT time of it. Still got 3 bikes which don't get used as much as they did because I now spend quite a bit of time sea fishing out on my boat. My cousin was sadly killed in a car crash in January, never to my knowledge rode a motorcycle in his life. You can mitigate against part of the danger by becoming competent but that doesn't mean that it can't bite you in the botty at some point. Whichever way you play it the grim reaper has your card marked!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_magicfingers Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 There are many other forms of enjoyment that carry risks with them, it is all down to how the individual views the risk/reward ratio innit? Shuey drove a racing car for many years, he was a dangerous driver and surprisingly didn't manage to kill anybody during his career but he is now in hospital looking a tad groggy after a skiing accident. You could probably retire into a cotton wool padded room and die eventually of boredom, dribbling down the front of your pullover or get out there and give it some serious large! I've been riding bikes for over 40 years now, raced F2 sidecars for a few years, did trials riding, plenty of track days, lots of continental touring etc. etc. and had a GREAT time of it. Still got 3 bikes which don't get used as much as they did because I now spend quite a bit of time sea fishing out on my boat. My cousin was sadly killed in a car crash in January, never to my knowledge rode a motorcycle in his life. You can mitigate against part of the danger by becoming competent but that doesn't mean that it can't bite you in the botty at some point. Whichever way you play it the grim reaper has your card marked!!!! ^^^ This. This, a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 There are many other forms of enjoyment that carry risks with them, it is all down to how the individual views the risk/reward ratio innit? Shuey drove a racing car for many years, he was a dangerous driver and surprisingly didn't manage to kill anybody during his career but he is now in hospital looking a tad groggy after a skiing accident. You could probably retire into a cotton wool padded room and die eventually of boredom, dribbling down the front of your pullover or get out there and give it some serious large! I've been riding bikes for over 40 years now, raced F2 sidecars for a few years, did trials riding, plenty of track days, lots of continental touring etc. etc. and had a GREAT time of it. Still got 3 bikes which don't get used as much as they did because I now spend quite a bit of time sea fishing out on my boat. My cousin was sadly killed in a car crash in January, never to my knowledge rode a motorcycle in his life. You can mitigate against part of the danger by becoming competent but that doesn't mean that it can't bite you in the botty at some point. Whichever way you play it the grim reaper has your card marked!!!! Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 How many were there? And over what time period? You need to provide some figures to back up that comment! http://www3.hants.gov.uk/hantswebnewslist.htm?id=596646&pagetitle=Motorcycle%20road%20safety%20call%20following%20fatalities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
955i Posted February 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 http://www3.hants.gov.uk/hantswebnewslist.htm?id=596646&pagetitle=Motorcycle%20road%20safety%20call%20following%20fatalities No accurate figures given but I quote: Many riders are injured at junctions when vehicles pull out This does not state that middle aged riders are in the majority in accidents, nor that the majority of accidents are the fault of the biker, in fact it suggests the opposite so you have not really answered the questions. Weekend Power Rangers aside, bikers tend to be more cautious road users due to acknowledged vulnerability. Yes we like to give it some berries, but the majority of riders will only do so when safe. Car drivers lost in their little metal bubbles are a far bigger danger to bikers than anything else. I have always said that riding a 125cc for a week should be part of the car test, would guarantee that it would make drivers more observant for bikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepasty Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) One thing I really dislike is the whole Car driver vs bike rider thing... stop being d!cks, you both use the same road but enjoy it in different ways and that is OK! Just another thing for people to argue about, its OK to like different things, you dont need to try and convince anyone that your choices in life are better. oh and "Cars are just for transport" what a load of tripe! Bikers do tend to let themselves down with carp like that and stuff like "Bikes are a way of life".... balls!... it is for some and it isnt for others, just like anything else in the world. Oh and I'll get on/in anything with an engine (bigger the better) and wheels so dont put me in either car or bike camp, I do both. Edited February 4, 2014 by thepasty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
955i Posted February 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 . I agree, and add my own fullstop in your support here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjh Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 is riding a motorbike dangerous statistically compared to other forms of road transport YES absolutely, compared to smoking, drinking alcohol above guideline limits, being over weight, being under stress, NO so lets put it into perspective how many motorcyclists are killed each year around 330, how many people are killed around the house over 5000 so spend more time out on your bike and less time doing DIY http://www.rospa.com/homesafety/ http://www.motorcyclenews.com/mcn/news/newsresults/general-news/2013/september/sep2613-deaths-at-lowest-rate/ its all about perception Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixxerboy Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 http://www3.hants.gov.uk/hantswebnewslist.htm?id=596646&pagetitle=Motorcycle%20road%20safety%20call%20following%20fatalities Mmmm so there were 10 motorcycle deaths in the whole of Hampshire in 2013.... I wonder how many people died of old age in Hampshire in 2013??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 No accurate figures given but I quote: Many riders are injured at junctions when vehicles pull out Having done a lot of research into this I can say that this is true, quite often the car driver pulls out as the motorcyclist has inadvertently left the indicator on after their last turn manoeuvre. The resulting impact is often significant as far from slowing to turn the rider is often as not accelerating. This was one of the main reasons we designed and manufacture our simple to fit "Audicator" programmable indicator warning device. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
955i Posted February 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) Having done a lot of research into this I can say that this is true, quite often the car driver pulls out as the motorcyclist has inadvertently left the indicator on after their last turn manoeuvre. The resulting impact is often significant as far from slowing to turn the rider is often as not accelerating. This was one of the main reasons we designed and manufacture our simple to fit "Audicator" programmable indicator warning device. Sorry, but this is rubbish. Car drivers just tend not to look for anything other than cars. However, I do agree with the proposed 'zebra effect' of the graphics on modern bikes and leathers acting as a kind of camouflage making them more difficult to see. Hence my credo of having single colour bikes and clothing Can you provide a link to your research? Edited February 4, 2014 by 955i Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) Power ranger suits should be enough to put most off riding bikes When a debate/discussion on bikes comes up all you hear is how sensible they all are, never speed or ride like a *****, any wrong doing is down to the cars on the roads. Can't count the amount of times lads I know who ride pass comments on he's a pussy rides like a girl,seen his tyres there only worn in the centre, look at mine ragged to the edge. Nothing worse than a group of bikers screaming round the dales overtaking willy nilly and cutting cars up trying to beat their mates. Treating the roads as a TT track. Or when coming round a bend towards you like a bat out of hell with his knee down and the only part of the bike on his side of the road is the tyres the rest is well over the white line. Nice when you see people out enjoying the ride and being sensible. Figgy Edited February 4, 2014 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neillfrbs Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 love bikes to bits ,and most people that die on them are going to fast fact ,have had 4 good mates die on bikes over the years, and it was all there fault ,except one who was hit by a drunk driver on his dt50 aged 17 , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
955i Posted February 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Power ranger suits should be enough to put most off riding bikes When a debate/discussion on bikes comes up all you hear is how sensible they all are, never speed or ride like a *****, any wrong doing is down to the cars on the roads. Can't count the amount of times lads I know who ride pass comments on he's a pussy rides like a girl,seen his tyres there only worn in the centre, look at mine ragged to the edge. Nothing worse than a group of bikers screaming round the dales overtaking willy nilly and cutting cars up trying to beat their mates. Treating the roads as a TT track. Or when coming round a bend towards you like a bat out of hell with his knee down and the only part of the bike on his side of the road is the tyres the rest is well over the white line. Nice when you see people out enjoying the ride and being sensible. Figgy Like I say, Weekend Warriors, give the rest of us a bad name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Like I say, Weekend Warriors, give the rest of us a bad name Pot - Black Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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