Denboy Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 I hope Scotland stay part of uk but if they decide to have independence should they keep the pound? I don't think they should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Reading the news this morning,all the three main parties are saying they won't be allowed to. Personally I think they should as I go there a fair bit and I don't want to be buying Euros to go up the motorway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crowdie2013 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 I hope Scotland stay part of uk but if they decide to have independence should they keep the pound? I don't think they should. And your reasons why not den boy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Kelly Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 It's either independence or it's not. Cake and eat spring to mind. I'm astonished that this daft government closed the naval shipbuilding in Plymouth and took it to Govern, a possible foreign power. Why not just move it to China and save everyone some money? There doesn't seem to be much logic to this, it's just pandering to Salmond so he can't claim he's being treated unfairly and get extra sympathy votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Why do you think we didn't go Euro? Because we wanted needed to control our currency. No way should they have 100% control of their economy and keep stirling . its either independence or not. BTW don't worry when the fools get through with the Scottish economy shops and businesses up there will still prefer the pound over whatever else they have as national Scottish currency and will likely bank it in England . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Out is out so they should have their own monopoly money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 If they go into the Euro they should go the whole hog and change the Country's name to Greece V.2.0 The gobby nationalists in Scotland crave independence but even they want (because they need) the pound, else they are treble screwed. If they want out so bad, then they should leave the pound behind and row their own boats. They won't like it up 'em Pike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingo15 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Im sorry but im with the view they want independence then your out completely. So does that mean if they were independent you would need to use your passport to gain entry to Scotland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) An interesting book to read is 'Making it Happen: Feed Goodwin, RBS and the Men who blew up the British Economy' it gives insight into how the muppets running the show there had such a hatred of England that they were blind to some of the decisions they were making. Alex Salmond used to work there! Edited February 12, 2014 by AVB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 . So does that mean if they were independent you would need to use your passport to gain entry to Scotland No. You can pass freely from one country to another in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 And no doubt sanctioned by Gordon Brown, another England hater. An interesting book to read is 'Making it Happen: Feed Goodwin, RBS and the Men who blew up the British Economy' it gives insight into how the muppets running the show there had such a hatred of England that they were blind to some of the decisions they were making. Alex Salmond used to work there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 They already have partial independence, if they want full independence they should have it fully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 You can't have monetary union without political union. Look at the mess that is Euroland for proof. We should at least be thankful we now have a Governor of the BE who isn't a leftist patsy and is prepared to speak grown-up truths. I suspect Salmond is manoeuvring for devo-max, an invidious settlement where Scotland receives substantially preferential political and fiscal treatment over the other counties of the UK with its supposed partners footing the bill. And I'll bet he gets it. A Pyrrhic victory for Cameron and the Unionists that will apply salt not balm to old nationalist wounds. Its a crying shame Scotland doesn't have a proper Nationalist leader. A successful independent grown-up Scotland outside the EU is just the model the continent, as well as the UK, needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedd-wyn Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Why not? Won't effect me in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Its like the teenager who leaves home seeking their independence yet still brings their washing home to mummy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 The de-facto currency in Zimbabwe is now the US$. But Zimbabwe have no say in how the US Federal Reserve runs its affairs. If Scotland want to use the pound - that's fine - who is to stop them, but they will have no say in how the Treasury conducts its affairs, borrows, and sets interest rates. It also means they will have a tough time borrowing on the markets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nial Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 No. You can pass freely from one country to another in Europe. Scotland won't be in Europe (according to the Europeans). Nial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Why not? Won't effect me in any way. Of course it will - or do you use the Groat in Phlegm-Land? We English have pandered to the money-pit of Celtic nationalism for too long - squandering millions on national assemblies that are nothing but talking shops to chat about how to spend the subsidies handed over by central government. Cut them all off and England can be like Switzerland - a safe haven with lower taxes, higher GDP and its own currency - Sterling. The rest of you can either join the Euro (who won't have you), use Bitcoin or re-introduce bartering. Good luck and close the door on the way out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Scotland won't be in Europe (according to the Europeans). Nial. So will you let us in then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 No. You can pass freely from one country to another in Europe. Scotland will remain in Europe as a geographical site. That has nothing to do with the EU and free passage, it raises an interesting point, Scotland as such has never joined the EU, so where would they stand on that if given FULL independence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 They will have to apply to join, but the Spaniards take a dim view on this given that regions of Spain also want to go down the independence route. Scotland will remain in Europe as a geographical site. That has nothing to do with the EU and free passage, it raises an interesting point, Scotland as such has never joined the EU, so where would they stand on that if given FULL independence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE MEK Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) Of course it will - or do you use the Groat in Phlegm-Land? We English have pandered to the money-pit of Celtic nationalism for too long - squandering millions on national assemblies that are nothing but talking shops to chat about how to spend the subsidies handed over by central government. Cut them all off and England can be like Switzerland - a safe haven with lower taxes, higher GDP and its own currency - Sterling. The rest of you can either join the Euro (who won't have you), use Bitcoin or re-introduce bartering. Good luck and close the door on the way out! Well said Edited February 12, 2014 by THE MEK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 I think you would need to look at Switzerland for answers,although they have just chucked a spanner in the works by voting to put in a quota system for EU migrants. As you can imagine France and Germany aren't best pleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 The de-facto currency in Zimbabwe is now the US$. But Zimbabwe have no say in how the US Federal Reserve runs its affairs. If Scotland want to use the pound - that's fine - who is to stop them, but they will have no say in how the Treasury conducts its affairs, borrows, and sets interest rates. It also means they will have a tough time borrowing on the markets. That would be the Pound in name only which is not what Salmond proposes. He wants the real thing but with political ties cut. It can't be done. All this talk of keeping the Pound and retaining the Queen as Head of State is mere face saving. He knows he will lose the vote and he's trying to grab what plunder he can while he can. I wouldn't put it past Salmond to engineer a settlement intended to cause maximum resentment within the rest of the UK in the hope it will widen divisions within the Union and strengthen the Nationalist cause for a second attempt at a later date. A deeply damaging and dishonourable tactic and one which I'm sure would please him greatly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happypig Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 No. You can pass freely from one country to another in Europe.But they will not be in Europe if independent. Membership of the eu is not a certainty.Spain have indicated they may block Scotland from joining as this has a knock on for the basque region. So.... No pound , no EU, no NATO, no chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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