karlbird Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Looking for a new car.What I am after doesn't exist, with a budget of less than £10k I want a smart (as it will be my only car), comfortable, reliable 4x4 that does not cost the earth to run and does around 40mpg.... What I want is a Land Rover Disco that meets the above criteria - so until they come up with something I will have to keep dreaming!Narrowed it down to a Freelander 2, but thats on the small side, willing to compromise there though as I have seen how good they are off road, especially with the addition of AT tyres.Does anyone have a BMW X3 and if so could they comment on what its like 'off-road'? I am not talking full on green laning etc, just the average shoot field perimeters, muddy rutty tracks and some inclines and more mud.It needs to be a family car (well not so much family as a dog when I get one later in the year), good on long runs both comfort and economy wise and also be a lamping/shoot truck too - so all in all I am asking a lot but willing (read as having to!) compromise somewhere.Regards,Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Have you considered a Honda CRV? I love mine and it does everything I need it to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Rav4? Are they too small? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Clarkson reckoned the X3 was pretty poor off road - his opinion damaged the vehicle's sales early on. I havent seen much change and it pricy too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainBeaky Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 I have heard that the wading depth on the X3 and X5 is quite poor, but don't quote me on that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/topten/top-10-best-used-suvs-for-less-than-gbp10000/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/topten/top-10-best-used-suvs-for-less-than-gbp10000/ That list is seriously wonky, it may as well have been made up by Simple Simon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Looking for a new car. What I am after doesn't exist, with a budget of less than £10k I want a smart (as it will be my only car), comfortable, reliable 4x4 that does not cost the earth to run and does around 40mpg.... What I want is a Land Rover Disco that meets the above criteria - so until they come up with something I will have to keep dreaming! Narrowed it down to a Freelander 2, but thats on the small side, willing to compromise there though as I have seen how good they are off road, especially with the addition of AT tyres. Does anyone have a BMW X3 and if so could they comment on what its like 'off-road'? I am not talking full on green laning etc, just the average shoot field perimeters, muddy rutty tracks and some inclines and more mud. It needs to be a family car (well not so much family as a dog when I get one later in the year), good on long runs both comfort and economy wise and also be a lamping/shoot truck too - so all in all I am asking a lot but willing (read as having to!) compromise somewhere. Regards, Karl There's a thread on the X3 a bit further down the page, basically they will cope with clay ground muddy car parks and farm tracks no problem but they are not and never were intended as a dual purpose vehicle (Clarkson is a multi millionaire but nonetheless idiot for not knowing this). You will love owning one, it beats most of the cars on HonestJohn's list into a cocked hat, Hyundai Santa Fe/Kia Sportage.............. purrleeease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooksy789 Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Id stick with the Landy, they're the daddy of offroading! My mrs grandad has a 03 plate disco and I remember one year we were about 3 feet in snow and snowed in were we lived with my mrs grandparents. We needed to get out and went out in the disco, it was like the snow wasn't even there! No slipping, no sliding, no nothing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Have you considered a Honda CRV? I love mine and it does everything I need it to. thought you said the crv was not great off road mate?? colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 thought you said the crv was not great off road mate?? colin Depends how you define off road...muddy fields / tracks / snow it's great, up to it's axles in mud, it's stuck lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Depends how you define off road...muddy fields / tracks / snow it's great, up to it's axles in mud, it's stuck lol! lol i think that goes for most modern suv's don't it? colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Have you looked at an Xtrail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlbird Posted February 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Gents, Thanks for your replies. Rav4 is definitely too small i think. The X Trail is one I need to look in to, wasn't on my list but definitely sounds like it is worth a look. I'll have a look for the X3 thread, see what that says. A couple of the guys on my shoot have CRVs and they seem to have difficulty on the rough stuff a bit more than I would like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 It's worth looking at tyres as well, good All Terrain tyres on a "soft roader" make a huge difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86inch Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 I'd warrant that a Freelander2 is larger than an X3... Some friends have an X3 and its no larger inside than my Volvo V50. If its space you want, then you need a Nissan Patrol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Kelly Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 That list is seriously wonky, it may as well have been made up by Simple Simon. http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/topten/top-50-real-mpg-models-of-2013/?image=3 On drugs! "Land Rover’s iconic Defender is the most fuel efficient 4x4 on the market" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 My Defender is fuel efficient.................just depends on what you are comparing it to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dempy Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Its all about the tires! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 At the end of the day it's a road car, put at tyres on and you reduce both it's ability on road and reduce its economy. You have to accept limitations off road, it will be better than a car but it won't be hardcore. A gun last year drowned his x5 trying to follow a ford ranger through a dee push puddle they just aren't designed for much more than tracks and grass. The freelander option don't be too sure on getting 40mpg unless you only do long journeys and have a light foot. The ones I know seem to average about 35mpg but they are vastly better off road. At the end of the day you need to look at the amount of miles you do and how much time off road. I have an l200 day to day and do about 12k a year and it's off road 2-3 nights a week lamping. Works for me but most of my driving is lanes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningDJC Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 A mitsubishi outlander could be had for that price, some good AT tyres as the others say would make a huge difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 My mate outlander off pw one of them they pretty rubbish of road Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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