truflex Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 There's a fella just started in our work under some sort of scheme. He has Aspergers. Thing is he's a little light fingered. Recently he's been going into the kitchen and helping himself to all sorts out of the fridge even eating peoples packed lunches etc. He's been spoken too but he's still at it. Management seem to be afraid to do anything. Surely something could be done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeh Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 There's a fella just started in our work under some sort of scheme. He has Aspergers. Thing is he's a little light fingered. Recently he's been going into the kitchen and helping himself to all sorts out of the fridge even eating peoples packed lunches etc. He's been spoken too but he's still at it. Management seem to be afraid to do anything. Surely something could be done? Report it to the scheme he came from, and ask for advice. They are the best ones to deal with it, and they'll know and understand the situation the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 (edited) Report it to the scheme he came from, and ask for advice. They are the best ones to deal with it, and they'll know and understand the situation the best. Spot on. Asperger's Syndrome isn't the easiest of things to handle for those inexperienced with it, so the management talking to him might not have worked because they simply don't understand the mentality and what's going through the chap's head. The scheme will have trained specialists who will be far more likely to help him understand what boundaries are and how to respect them. Give them a call and have some kind of mediation session with him, his carers and the management (if possible). Can I say, credit to your company though. To be prepared to sign up to something like that is excellent. I used to give specialist one-to-one with a couple of lads who had A.S. and I know how hard it can be for those with a moderate condition to actually feel like they can engage with normal society. Edited February 23, 2014 by chrisjpainter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truflex Posted February 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Spot on. Asperger's Syndrome isn't the easiest of things to handle for those inexperienced with, so the management talking to him might not have worked because they simply don't understand the mentality and what's going through the chap's head. The scheme will have trained specialists who will be far more likely to help him understand what boundaries are and how to respect them. Give them a call and have some kind of mediation session with him, his carers and the management (if possible). Can I say, credit to your company though. To be prepared to sign up to something like that is excellent. I used to give specialist one-to-one with a couple of lads who had A.S. and I know how hard it can be for those with a moderate condition to actually feel like they can engage with normal society. I think they get paid to take him on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I think they get paid to take him on. probably, but even so, it's a great idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truflex Posted February 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I know he has an illness but at the end of the day it's still theft. Anybody else would get sacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Hate to say it but "special needs" is a massive get out of jail card-it often trumps health and safety. You will not get anywhere reporting it so tackle it at grass roots level-some of the suggestions so far are not too wide of the mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remmyman Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 lock on the fridge? Regards remmyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munzy Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 My niece has fairly severe Aspergers, it's clear most people don't understand it given the recommendations here. Think of waking up tomorrow having lost all of your social interaction experience. You no longer understand personal space, people's feelings, how to act in certain situations, sensitivities etc. You are emotionally blind, deaf and dumb. Throw into the mix a complete inability to logically and rationally decipher even the most innocent of situations and you now have mild Aspergers traits. Everyone I've met with Aspergers (before my niece's diagnosis and my subsequent education) came across as incredibly rude, completely self centred and to be brutally honest, unlikeable. At face value they are odd, cold and frustrating. It's only when you understand that the bit of the brain that forces sensitive thinking is wired incorrectly. This guy doesn't understand that what he's doing is wrong, it's not theft, he likely doesn't understand the concept of property ownership or why someone would be upset at his actions. It can't be taught, his brain doesn't work that way, it's not a discipline issue, it's a neurological condition. He will FULLY understand any retaliation though, it will likely scare and upset him in a very cruel way that would far exceed how a normal person would react. The best thing to do is to speak to HR or direct to the group that placed him with you and explain that he isn't getting on well and you are concerned for him. As for counting cards... That's for the autistic savants! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munzy Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 (edited) As far as asperges goes it's just another medical condition to claim for same as ADHD just another word for kids not been parented correctly (majority of cases anyway) .... I suggest you do some reading-up before making claims that might upset people and make you look like a moron. Edited February 23, 2014 by Munzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truflex Posted February 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 My niece has fairly severe Aspergers, it's clear most people don't understand it given the recommendations here. Think of waking up tomorrow having lost all of your social interaction experience. You no longer understand personal space, people's feelings, how to act in certain situations, sensitivities etc. You are emotionally blind, deaf and dumb. Throw into the mix a complete inability to logically and rationally decipher even the most innocent of situations and you now have mild Aspergers traits. Everyone I've met with Aspergers (before my niece's diagnosis and my subsequent education) came across as incredibly rude, completely self centred and to be brutally honest, unlikeable. At face value they are odd, cold and frustrating. It's only when you understand that the bit of the brain that forces sensitive thinking is wired incorrectly. This guy doesn't understand that what he's doing is wrong, it's not theft, he likely doesn't understand the concept of property ownership or why someone would be upset at his actions. It can't be taught, his brain doesn't work that way, it's not a discipline issue, it's a neurological condition. He will FULLY understand any retaliation though, it will likely scare and upset him in a very cruel way that would far exceed how a normal person would react. The best thing to do is to speak to HR or direct to the group that placed him with you and explain that he isn't getting on well and you are concerned for him. As for counting cards... That's for the autistic savants! Then he shouldn't be in the work place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munzy Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Then he shouldn't be in the work place. Not in that particular one I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truflex Posted February 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Thing is if he was hungry and couldn't provide himself with a few sarnies I'd make extra and bring them in for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontbeck Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I can't believe the attitude to mental disability expressed on this forum. I hope you don't have to experience the problems people like Munzy's niece take on a daily basis. This guy has been difficult to live with by his workmates and it's been a misjudged placement but some of your comments are little short of disgraceful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truflex Posted February 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 The thread wasn't meant to take the **** out of him. I actually would like to help him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 The thread wasn't meant to take the **** out of him. I actually would like to help him. couldnt you just take him a sarnie with his name written on the wrapper ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike737 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Well said Munzy and Truflex, and yes; take him in his own sandwich, but also discuss it with his placement team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill.p Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I suggest you do some reading-up before making claims that might upset people and make you look like a moron. Well said. My son has the condition. Reading some of the narrow minded opinions of some on here beggars belief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 (edited) I suggest you do some reading-up before making claims that might upset people and make you look like a moron.I'm basing this on majority of people that are claiming for disabilities that does notin most cases don't exist, it's just a excuse for there parents to have a lay in and claim off the state, no doubt there are cases out there of kids with disabilities, which if your niece is one I agree with your feelings but as far as the majority goes it's down to lazy parents, chastising, learning rights from wrong, and generally not been brought up to a sociable standard..And As far as calling me a moron I also think this is socially unacceptable and rather childish. Atb kind sir.. Delburt0 Edited February 23, 2014 by delburt0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROY Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I can't believe the attitude to mental disability expressed on this forum. I hope you don't have to experience the problems people like Munzy's niece take on a daily basis. This guy has been difficult to live with by his workmates and it's been a misjudged placement but some of your comments are little short of disgraceful + 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I think you will find most of the comments are tongue in cheek. Well I hope they are. Friends of ours have a child that has Asperger's - it's like every ounce of personality and humanity was sucked out at birth. I feel sorry for the kid because he has no friends at school and will never know or understand friendship, love or any human emotion. I feel very sorry for the parents because their child will never show them any love or affection. The suggestion that true Asperger's is bad parenting is however very very worrying. There must be something wrong with me because as deeply worrying that comment was, I found it hilarious that someone was being serious - is that funny? I thought it was, but hey I've been watching Frankie Boyle DVDs this afternoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Oh Paddy!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontbeck Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Easy to say now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Some of the comments might be tongue in cheek, some are plain ignorant. Comparing Aspergers to ADHD or suggesting it's somehow made up? Jeez, have you hounded any paediatricians out of the neighbourhood recently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 if i need to explain my post in any more detail then you really are a moron , im out of this now but i will say that your post about the broken glass was beyond belief for any right thinking person.that word moron again , (does the state pay for this I might. Start Sponging aswell) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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