njc110381 Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 I'm really missing my pump action just lately. The trouble is the last one I had was just too long for me - I'm not that tall and have short arms! Could you all do me a favour? Next time you have your gun out of the safe could you measure from the butt end of the stock to the back of the fore end when it's pushed forwards and post it up here please? I'm trying to find out which gun would suit me best. As always, I'd be most grateful for your replies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Prawn Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Don't have the measurements but a Winchester SXP has a very small stock and consequent ease of the reach for the lesser armed shooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 No problems, will try to check mine tonight for you. I know my Mossberg 500c 20g is short though, but i like it that way and it is great on quary and clays ! Really enjoy using it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Prawn Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Just as a thought, in my limited experience the American models tend to be shorter which is either as they're home defence models they would be easier to swing in a small space, or the rampant obesity so no shoulder mount when a few inches of moob will suffice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) I'll measure my hatsan 20g pump later it's fairly compact 13.5" lop with all the spacers in. Could be tempted to part with it. Edit- I forgot to say if your anywhere near me nick your welcome to borrow mine for a few days to try. Edited April 8, 2014 by bicykillgaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainBeaky Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Just as a thought, in my limited experience the American models tend to be shorter which is either as they're home defence models they would be easier to swing in a small space, or the rampant obesity so no shoulder mount when a few inches of moob will suffice? Thank you so much - that is a mental image I would rather not have experienced... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rst1990 Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Winchester sxp 21" from butt to rear of forend when forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 hatsan pump. or a reve pump. will do for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 I have short arms and small hands but never struggle with a Remmie, I fondled a Hatstand and it was ok size wise. My Winnie 1300 felt long but fitted fine plus they all but self eject so one only has to shut it. Good luck. U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markbrowning Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 From the butt to the beginning of the forend (when forward) Ithaca M37 = 24" Browning BPS = 25" (however does have a kick eez recoil pad fitted extending the original stock by around 1.5") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Mine has a Knoxx stock, so it has about 5 length settings...makes for more choice when wearing different layers of clothing in winter/summer etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sco77w Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 From the butt to the beginning of the forend (when forward) Ithaca M37 = 24" Browning BPS = 25" (however does have a kick eez recoil pad fitted extending the original stock by around 1.5") Browning BPS! can I hell as like find one. I want one! I want one! I want one! Now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markbrowning Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Browning BPS! can I hell as like find one. I want one! I want one! I want one! Now! I was on the look out for sometime! Was absolutely made up when I got my hands on it. I love it. Rarely gets used but don't think I would be selling it anytime soon! It's a 24" version with a fixed choke (around 1/4) without a rib. Someone else on here has one, but the more useful longer one with a rib & multi-choke. Lovely pump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TbirdX Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) The Ithaca M37 is basically a BPS and also a very very lovely gun in it's own right. I won't be parting with mine anytime soon ;-) Edited April 8, 2014 by TbirdX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sco77w Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 The Ithaca M37 is basically a BPS and also a very very lovely gun in it's own right. I won't be parting with mine anytime soon ;-) just googled some images. I didn't realise these ejected out of the bottom of the action too. I missed out on one of these a while back. got a spare S1 shotgun slot on my FAC so could have either S1 or S2, depends on what comes up. Would prefer a S2 though as I want a Super Nova in S1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowdy Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 just googled some images. I didn't realise these ejected out of the bottom of the action too. I missed out on one of these a while back. got a spare S1 shotgun slot on my FAC so could have either S1 or S2, depends on what comes up. Would prefer a S2 though as I want a Super Nova in S1. There is one for sale on the stalking directory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChAoS Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 The Ithaca M37 is basically a BPS *This* may help you to see the error of your ways: http://www.randywakeman.com/Ithaca37_Browning_%20BPS_Compare.htm For those that can't follow the link, this'll give you a flavour of the content: With the exception of the bottom ejection platform, the BPS is vastly different from the Ithaca Model 37. The trigger group is pinned into place, the slide release is on the left rear of the trigger guard, the slip-fit barrel has a barrel extension and tab array, and the safety is a thumb safety on top of the receiver. Regards, Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markbrowning Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 If only the M37 & BPS mated and reproduced a hybrid of the two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TbirdX Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 Not quite the 'copy' I thought it was. :-) I shall revise my info to 'based on a Browning design' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted April 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 Thanks chaps for your input. I actually had a BPS synthetic 3" magnum with a 28" multi choke barrel once, but it was too long for me to shoot well so I sold it. They are indeed cracking guns, but hard to find. I am wondering if a 20g youth model might fit the bill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rst1990 Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 Thanks chaps for your input. I actually had a BPS synthetic 3" magnum with a 28" multi choke barrel once, but it was too long for me to shoot well so I sold it. They are indeed cracking guns, but hard to find. I am wondering if a 20g youth model might fit the bill? Does the winchester sxp not fit? If not then a youth model may be the way, as the sxp is one of the shortest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sco77w Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 There is one for sale on the stalking directory Registered on the forum and posted a reply. Going to have to see if I can prize a few quid out of the Mrs. I've just bought a rifle and sent my shotgun in for converting for PSG, on top of that we are just about to buy a house. Fancy having a whip round for me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChAoS Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 Not quite the 'copy' I thought it was. Indeed, not. I shall revise my info to 'based on a Browning design' Hmmmmm. But *was* it? I had a quick fossik around the Net, but couldn't find much in the way of the design history of the BPS. (I note that it has a mag cut-off facility - something that M37s do *not* have.) I actually wouldn't mind acquiring an S.2 BPS, myself - you know, just to say I've *had* one... Regards, Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 My hatsan 20g is 20" from rear of pad to start of pump grip and 29" to front end of pump grip and when pumped its a little over 16" to start of grip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted April 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 Does the winchester sxp not fit? If not then a youth model may be the way, as the sxp is one of the shortest. I've not tried it yet. It's quite a modern looking pump though, not sure I like the look of it. Do they make a wood model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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