Cranfield Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Please ignore any communications from " Jordan David", or any other enquiries worded as below, or similar. "Hi,i am a Navy (USNR -VS-82, NAS Alameda, VS-82.), I'm buying this formy friend as a surprise gift, so i'm willing to offer you the amountyou required.Due to the hectic nature of my job, the only mode of payment thatbest suit this transaction is Paypal therefore i have made arrangementwith my agent who is a registered arm dealer to come pick it up whenpayment has been cleared in your account so i would want you to getback to me with your pay pal email address for me to make payment toyou and perhaps, your pick up address so i can have my agent toschedule pick up appointment after payment.Kindly get back to me with the following questions below: 1) Are you the Owner?2) Pick up Location?3) Your PayPal Email ID to effect the payment4)asking price once again for confirmation? Thanks and God blessFromJordan David." This is a Scam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Scary, I take it they want to know were predominantly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smig4373 Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 I had this scam tried on me several months ago.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triumphant59 Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Contacted by the same few months ago, would you believe I didn't fall for it. Is there any way such an individual can be identified and "dealt" with! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Report him to the police I did!! They knew he was about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewall968 Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Mr Jordan David has emailed me about two higher end guns this pm. It's not the first time that this type of **** has entered my inbox. There are a number of Nigerian based scams that operate on similar lines. They all usually start by asking whether the "item" is still available for sale. The dopey/lazy ******** don't even know what it is they are trying to con you on. Just send emails to the trash and forget about them. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddanby111 Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Yea I've had it too lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottoj18 Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Just got this email Hi,i am a Navy (USNR -VS-82, NAS Alameda, VS-82.), I'm buying this for my friend as a surprise gift, so i'm willing to offer you the amount you required. Due to the hectic nature of my job, the only mode of payment that best suit this transaction is Paypal therefore i have made arrangement with my agent who is a registered arm dealer to come pick it up when payment has been cleared in your account so i would want you to get back to me with your pay pal email address for me to make payment to you and perhaps, your pick up address so i can have my agent to schedule pick up appointment after payment. Kindly get back to me with the following questions below: 1) Are you the Owner? 2) Pick up Location? 3) Your PayPal Email ID to effect the payment 4)asking price once again for confirmation? Thanks and God bless From Jordan David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 What a pleb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottoj18 Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Iv emailed back witha link to this page and and email consisting of sellers on gun watch know what you are up to and that the police have been informed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuddster Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Yep got the email as well-reminds me of George Agdgdgwngo from fonejacker. f. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browning123 Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 I had this scam tried on me several months ago.. And me after I advertised a gun for sale on Gunwatch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottoj18 Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Anyone had an email from darrenswildcamping@outlook.com About putting a gun on his wall .. From Bridlington ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grasshopper Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) Had it tonight too about a 22 250 rifle i have for sale :rolleyes:thought it was strange how gunwatch couldn't show the message Edited April 21, 2014 by grasshopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berettacocker Posted April 21, 2014 Report Share Posted April 21, 2014 Just sold a sako on here tonight,all went well very impressed with the response.Not very good computer wise but went relatively smoothly so all I can add is if it doesn't and you're unsure DONT proceed. Keep up the good work on PW, cheers Darren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coney Basher Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 I had an email from darrenswildcamping about the BSA .22 pump I have advertised asking me if I would send it to his home address . Lots of emails back and forth with him trying to convince me that a number of gunshops (RFD's) had posted him numerous air rifles contrary to the VCR Act. What a numpty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sishyplops Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 Got an email from him yesterday so he's still active Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cribmaster Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) got the david one for a 223 i was selling it did sound very iffy my agent yer right Edited April 22, 2014 by cribmaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rimotu66 Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 Has anyone gone through with it to see who turns up to collect as 'his agent' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) Has anyone gone through with it to see who turns up to collect as 'his agent' There is no agent - he just wants the cash he tricks you into sending. I've seen this scam done before outside of PayPal too - they order a whole load of stuff from a company - and pay directly into your bank account. They over-pay, and request you send the difference back to them via bank-transfer. Unfortunately they pay this money into your account using a stolen cheque, so once it bounces, the bank takes the whole amount back from you and you're out of pocket. Edited April 22, 2014 by aris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michaeli Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 There is no agent - he just wants the cash he tricks you into sending. I've seen this scam done before outside of PayPal too - they order a whole load of stuff from a company - and pay directly into your bank account. They over-pay, and request you send the difference back to them via bank-transfer. Unfortunately they pay this money into your account using a stolen cheque, so once it bounces, the bank takes the whole amount back from you and you're out of pocket. +1 I was done when selling soming about 10 years ago. I was one of the first in the uk, even the bank at the time had not heard about it but within a week of my transaction another 200 odd were reported. Luckly the bank wrote it off as fraud and nothing came back on me but had to prove lots of emails etc. That was for £3500 as well. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rimotu66 Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 There is no agent - he just wants the cash he tricks you into sending. I've seen this scam done before outside of PayPal too - they order a whole load of stuff from a company - and pay directly into your bank account. They over-pay, and request you send the difference back to them via bank-transfer. Unfortunately they pay this money into your account using a stolen cheque, so once it bounces, the bank takes the whole amount back from you and you're out of pocket. Would it work the same with paypal though? I guess it could as you pp account is linked to your bank account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michaeli Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 Im nit sure how it will work, Mabey there bank acount might fail to produce the money which would then cancel the transaction and with draw the money from you acount. By which point they have sent a sob story though on how they cant go though with it etc and need the money back. Probaly insit its via gift and that is you can get your money back and all before paypal have noticed. Or like the cheque they send you more than the goods amount and ask for you to transfer the rest back to a diffrent acount via gift and then as above (and below) With the cheque they get you send the extra money back via western union transfer (paypal was still very new 10 years ago when i got done) and with western union, once the money has been sent there is no way of getting it back. Once i sent it i got a email saying there son needed some urgent medical treatment and they could not go though with it anymore etc so could i send them the rest of the money back but keep £100 for my troubles etc. Luckly by then the bank have contacted me and they did not get the other money. They still managed to pocket over £1000. Hope that makes sense, makes my blood boil thinking about it. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) There is no intention to pay the original payment - so how that payment is made is not really relevant - it just has to look genuine. A paypal payment which comes into your account, or a deposit into your bank account. These look genuine, but are not "guaranteed" . Paypal payments are subject to chargebacks, and cheque deposits can bounce. You can read more about it here: http://netcred.co.uk/security/overpayment-or-advance-payment-scam.html http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/fraud-az-cheque-overpayment-fraud Edited April 22, 2014 by aris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted April 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 How the scam works is that the Buyer will make a payment via PayPal for too much, then request you transfer some money to his bank account to cover the difference. Once he has your money PayPal will be in touch and void the money transfer you have received. The scam is being operated regardless of the item for sale, the fact these are for guns is totally coincidental. Autotrader, Gumtree, eBay and all other sites where secondhand items are being sold by the owner have been targeted. Clearly, some people must be taken in , or they wouldn't continue to try the scam. If a Gun watch Seller has any concerns or queries, they should contact Admin immediately and we will sort it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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