Zeus Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Following the advice of members here I have spent many hours driving round "door knocking". After the endless "thanks but no thanks" responses, I have had my first yes! A farmers has given me permission to shoot over three fields, which have just been drilled and have a lot of birds on (he's not sure if the contractor has done as good a job as usual drilling the the seed this time round). He said I could shoot when I wanted and to just let him know. The conundrum I have is that he also went on to say that his usual guy was on holiday for a while! I know it's a big no no to go out and intentionally steal someone's permission. In this situation is it right or wrong for me to shoot? Zeus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Yes, absolutely, he is the land owner and it's up to him who shoots. Well done on getting your first permission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedster Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 At least you thought about the other guy, many don't! Good luck and here's hoping you get many more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Well done on your first permission, shoot it until the regular comes back and then maybe you can team up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Well done Land owner needs his crops protecting go and do a good tidy job All the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Personally speaking, You put the time in going round door knocking on potential permissions and finally got a farmer who said YES what you didnt do, You didn't get someone to take you out on a permission they have gained in the same manner as you have done, Then when their back's turned, go back and ask permission or worse still turn up telling the farmer your mate had said it was alright. See the difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 dip your bread mate !!! if you weren't doing the job properly , YOU would soon be replaced . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnie Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 as above see it as a job if it's not done the farmer will get someone else, but worth touching base with the other chap you never know you may oneday find yourself in his position not pleasant to find someone on your patch when you've been on hols. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 I would not worry too much the land owner has the right to let on who he likes , you might want to clarify if it is just while the other chap is away. It is getting tough to find a permission that you shoot alone , I had one for several years until today when I went for a reccy and found someone set up, cant say I was over the moon but I will just have to suck it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 It is a start....Now when you go looking for land you can put in to your pitch......" I shoot for Mr XYZ" and that will carry a bit more weight if the other land is local.... TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus Posted April 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Thanks all. Its only a small perm so wouldn't want to over shoot it and maybe when the regular guy returns we could work something out. I managed to find the farmers name from a neighbour before hand which was a good opener. I just want to do a good job here, and not pee anyone off in the process. I will still keep on with the "door knocking" game. The farmer did put me onto another farm to try. atb Zeus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belly47 Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) well done!! the hard work has paid off we would all like permissions where nobody else shot but they are few and far between on my experience, if you meet the other guy just be polite and sure he will be ok with it. ive had a couple of grumpy shooters giving me the third degree when they have seen me for the first time, but as someone said previously if the farmer wants you there then crack on best of luck with it Edited April 24, 2014 by belly47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David M Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 I feel guilty that a farmer mate has recently asked me to shoot rabbits over an area covered by a friend of mine that I didn't know about until recently.. (sorry mate..!.. ) I think some farmers let lots of different people shoot on their land and just want vermin attacked as often as possible, the more guns the better. Last year I started shooting for a local farmer who said yes straight away and I've been fortuneate to get on with the other half dozen or so regulars that I've bumped into now and again who get there..!! They've actually helped me out with different hide positions and best times to seek out different quarry which I thought went well beyond just putting up with another gun trampling their patch. If I see anyone else parked and on his land then I just go home (500 yards away) and wait for another day. You'll probably find that the other shooter who's on holiday may only go there now and again, or only has free time on the weekends or similar and you may very rarely see him if you realise their patterns and avoid those times...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRNDL Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 I am very pleased for you. Very pleased indeed. Well done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus Posted April 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Thanks again guys for the positive comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 This is why you should foster real close relationships with your landowners and get the job done when required at the drop of a hat. Shoot away and shoot it hard, it might even be a line so he can turf you off easy if you don't get the job done right. My experience is some put you on a sort of probation period. Use this consent while you have it " I am shooting for MR x and XYZ farm on the pigeon at present I wonder if I might also help you? Permissions cascade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 i think you might be thinking too much into it, the farmer has given you permission to shoot so go and shoot, if he didn't want you to he wouldn't of said yes, have fun and enjoy colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 A few years ago my mate and me went to see a farmer who said he already had a shooter. After a bit of social chat came to pass we shoot for his brother in law anyway he said his shooter could only come on weekend because of work.. So i said not a problem if he wanted we would shoot only during the week and anytime his regular shooter was there we would leave him to it. We got permission and still go at Xmas with his bottle.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malantone Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Thanks all. Its only a small perm so wouldn't want to over shoot it . atb Zeus I think you got permission to protect the seeded field, don`t worry about over shooting get the job done, Well done for sticking in, now you want to build a reputation of getting the job done, not for looking after your own interests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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