shooternick Posted May 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Mind your own business! Why were you nosing through your neighbour's car windows 500yds from your house anyway? I really don't know what's happening in this country - these days everyone seems to want to be offended by SOMETHING... on which occasion did I say my neighbour lived 500 yds away my neighbour lives next door and when my dog went round the back of his house I had to walk past his motor with a FAC shotgun on the front seat stood on its end. How could I not notice it !!! Please read my original post fully before accusing me of being your typical nosey neighbour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedster Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Borrow them, see his face when you give them back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 The bit that worries me is . When people like yourself . See others committing what is obviously a serious offence and a major breach of anyone licensing conditions .. is you all need to ask your pretend friends on the Internet what to do ?? Come on people where all ment to be blooody grown ups here . You all know the law !! Like I said from off . Have a word with him first if you feel you want to keep the peace . But make sure he knows that if he does it again you WILL report him . Please dont take this personally . Its not my intention to offend you at all mate . Regards stevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootgun Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 I personally would see it as none of my business. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyb79 Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Tricky one in that if you speak to him quietly and then report him, he'll definitely know who it was and no matter how reasonable someone may be, they'll undoubtedly see you as the reason they lost their license and not see it as their own fault. Although I see the 'none of your business' side, it is a sad fact that people like this could ultimately ruin our sport for the law-abiding. I think id be minded to ring 101 and say you've seen shotguns on show in a vehicle next time you see them, that way the police will respond and deal and hopefully the neighbour will be none the wiser as to how they knew. At the end of the day, think worst case scenario. If some less than fragrant types come round on the rob and see them, who know where they could end up. I wouldn't want to know that I could've stopped something bad happening and didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam1e Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 ordnance, on 18 May 2014 - 7:34 PM, said: I personally would see it as none of my business. +1 A tad naïve to be fair. The shooting community is, and has been hammered relentlessly by bureaucrats at the word of ignorant people/public for years! If one of those "guns" was say an fac 12 bore semi and was stolen and then used in a murder, or worse a killing spree, how long do you think it would be before that type of gun was banned altogether? It's a million to one possibility, but aren't they all?? "Nosey neighbours" have solved many a murder, it's a good job those people didn't agree with your sentiment.... I'd always want to be spoken to face to face than be "shafted", but some people can't handle constructive criticism. And some people haven't got the confidence to confront other people, no shame in that.... If you know him to be of that type, then as he's your neighbour, you're the one who'll have to live next to him! If you do go ahead and report him "anonymously", don't be fooled into giving your details on the basis that the **** concerned will never find out. I've seen no end of people get "the nod" from coppers who should know better! Good Luck to you... Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydi73 Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 As a person struggling to get my first FAC, the hoops I'm having to jump through to get mentoring, permission for mentoring, farmers consent to mentor on his land etc etc, I find the arrogance incredulus of this neghbour. Clearly s/he was awarded a license way before all these new requirements came into force!! I bet they wouldn't be so blazey if, like I am, they had to go through this process prior to being awarded an FAC!! Maybe like already said on here, a quiet word and remind them of the now lengthy process one has to go through to achieve an FAC, then they may realise what a privilege they are risking, and may attend to the situation at hand!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Has anything been done yet ? Or are those weapons still 'available' to criminals. You must report it, it is your business, its all our business. Make your mind up and do something. If you are worried, as said above, PM me the details and I'll report it. I also promise to delete the message. Also as said above, my stuff is taken from the cabinet and put back after use even if its 3 am and the gun is wet. Think about your duty of care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 +1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 holy mackerel where 's the dilemma?? for sake of argument lets say a drugged up burglar removes that gun from said car and points it in your wifes face......how would you feel at that point? If I knew the neighbour I would tell him exactly what I thought and if I ever saw it again would ring police,would 'nt give a toss about falling out with such an irresponsible idiot. Don't do nothing. atb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 give me his name and address, the number of your flo and i'll shop him for you, if he gives you any grief send him my way, as much as I agree with everyone else about his arrogance/stupidity it still doesn't detract from the fact that if he's liable to get a monk on you're in the firing line. Has anything been done yet ? Or are those weapons still 'available' to criminals. You must report it, it is your business, its all our business. Make your mind up and do something. If you are worried, as said above, PM me the details and I'll report it. I also promise to delete the message. Also as said above, my stuff is taken from the cabinet and put back after use even if its 3 am and the gun is wet. Think about your duty of care. Your neighbour is an idiot,report him and have done with it, or send me the details and i will report him. He is an idiot of the highest order,report it before the weapons are taken and used against someone.There is no excuse for not taking them the few yards into the property and locking them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooternick Posted May 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 ordnance, on 18 May 2014 - 7:34 PM, said: A tad naïve to be fair. The shooting community is, and has been hammered relentlessly by bureaucrats at the word of ignorant people/public for years! If one of those "guns" was say an fac 12 bore semi and was stolen and then used in a murder, or worse a killing spree, how long do you think it would be before that type of gun was banned altogether? It's a million to one possibility, but aren't they all?? "Nosey neighbours" have solved many a murder, it's a good job those people didn't agree with your sentiment.... I'd always want to be spoken to face to face than be "shafted", but some people can't handle constructive criticism. And some people haven't got the confidence to confront other people, no shame in that.... If you know him to be of that type, then as he's your neighbour, you're the one who'll have to live next to him! If you do go ahead and report him "anonymously", don't be fooled into giving your details on the basis that the **** concerned will never find out. I've seen no end of people get "the nod" from coppers who should know better! Good Luck to you... Jamie One of them is a FAC semi auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 I don't see why you just don't report him. If you believe he will turn nasty if he discovers the report was made by you - just ask yourself - should he have access to firearms? It's a no brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Just me but wouldn't have even asked on here , the minute I knew firearms had been left unattended in a vehicle overnight on regular basis as you say , the phone call would have been made Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therealchucknorris Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 As per most of the posts on here - not worth wasting time over particularly as the nights are lighter and there's more chance of them being spotted by any passing nosey swine. Quiet word or reporting - doesn't make too much difference if the end result is them not in the car tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul T Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 If this is genuine, I really don't see what the problem is here - this guy is being flippant in the extreme with regard to basic firearms safety. Yeah, you can bleat about minding your own business, but this has the potential to be a real issue if not dealt with. Guns are kept locked up for a reason and if you don't know why, you shouldn't have them! I'd be telling my mate he's a complete idiot and if he doesn't change his ways and behave more responsibly then I'll dob him in myself. Grow a pair and act on it, simples. I keep myself to myself on a most issues and I'm certainly not a nosey curtain twitcher but rest assured, if something is likely to have an adverse effect on either me, my family or anything I like doing (i.e. shooting). then I'm not afraid to speak up about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pycoed Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 on which occasion did I say my neighbour lived 500 yds away my neighbour lives next door and when my dog went round the back of his house I had to walk past his motor with a FAC shotgun on the front seat stood on its end. How could I not notice it !!! Please read my original post fully before accusing me of being your typical nosey neighbour In your OP you state "its a quiet area the nearest house being 500 yds away and the village about 1 mile away". Now you tell us it's next door, well "next door" for me IS 500 yds, so you really need to be more explicit in your posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pycoed Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 If this is genuine, I really don't see what the problem is here - this guy is being flippant in the extreme with regard to basic firearms safety. Yeah, you can bleat about minding your own business, but this has the potential to be a real issue if not dealt with. Guns are kept locked up for a reason and if you don't know why, you shouldn't have them! I'd be telling my mate he's a complete idiot and if he doesn't change his ways and behave more responsibly then I'll dob him in myself. Grow a pair and act on it, simples. I keep myself to myself on a most issues and I'm certainly not a nosey curtain twitcher but rest assured, if something is likely to have an adverse effect on either me, my family or anything I like doing (i.e. shooting). then I'm not afraid to speak up about it. PaulT Do you really not notice the irony of your post followed by Bob Marley's quote as a strapline? Since when did people in this country who have been stolen from somehow be considered to be responsible for their loss? It is always the fault of the thief, surely? I know the police make a stipulation for guns, but why should they - it's just a symptom that the baddies are winning if society thinks it's not 100% the thief's fault if even a gun is stolen? To take the extreme case, if a girl goes out in skimpy clothes & gets raped, no-one in their right mind would suggest that she had contributed to her plight. Why then should theft be treated differently- it didn't used to be. It frankly worries me that so many posters suggest the STASI-like approach of anonymous clekking. If you are genuinely concerned about the OP's case then just have a quiet word with the neighbour along the lines of "Did you know you've left your gun in the car -you are pushing your luck there" . If you haven't got the balls to do even that IMHO then STFU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 there's more chance of them being spotted by any passing nosey swine. That's a bit harsh, he is just asking what he should do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanj Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 nick guns from car, hand in to police (use one of the guys on here offering their assistance). He'll have some awkward questions to answer for sure and is certain to lose his licences. Job jobbed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therealchucknorris Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 That's a bit harsh, he is just asking what he should do. not a dig at the OP, just meant they're more visible in a car as it's lighter for longer and anyone* passing could see. *people who would more than likely nick them than come on to a forum asking what the best course of action is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 not a dig at the OP, just meant they're more visible in a car as it's lighter for longer and anyone* passing could see. I see I thought you could have being referring to him being nosey.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therealchucknorris Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Since when did people in this country who have been stolen from somehow be considered to be responsible for their loss? Because, particularly in this instance the owner has signed a legal document saying he would keep them hidden away and not leave them in vulnerable situations. Forget anything else you want to type about any other subject in the world. He is responsible for his property and he is not keeping them in accordance with the law. He will be held responsible regardless if they're taken by a drug starved teen or a concerned neighbour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therealchucknorris Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 I see I thought you could have being referring to him being nosey.. Not at all, it's good to see people still having an element of concern for their neighbours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 He will be held responsible regardless if they're taken by a drug starved teen or a concerned neighbour. A concerned neighbour lifting them would not be a good idea. The thanks from the police for their trouble could be getting charged with illegal possession of firearms. If they are not on your FAC then you should not have them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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