theshootist Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 (edited) Can I ask what members think would be the best action to rebarrel to .17 rem? From my research a cz527 in .222 would be a good conversion as its a proper short action and has a detachable mag. What about the tikka 595 or sako actions? Would they be better or worse? Edited May 25, 2014 by theshootist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 Tikka 590 may be better than 595. Sako a2 are alway good for a donor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted May 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 I don't know the difference between 590 and 595, is one a short action? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 If you are of small stature the cz is nice. A 223 one may be better mag wise! How about a single shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted May 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 I just thought that having a small action would mean not wasting and length on the bolt throw. Single shot would be great, a ruger no 1 or maybe one of those rossi break open rifles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 Sako vixen if your ok with the floor plate as number 1 choice, short action 75 if not. CZ 527 is a good choice only a 5 series Tikka if its metal bottom metal BTW the replacement metal mags are like hens teeth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 How about an old Weatherby Vanguard action, a short one, good actions and triggers. Howa's really! U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 Haven got a clue what to use But a wonderful project put some pictures up of how you do it please very interesting to a lot of members I'm sure Will be interested to see how your end result peformes All the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted May 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 Haven got a clue what to use But a wonderful project put some pictures up of how you do it please very interesting to a lot of members I'm sure Will be interested to see how your end result peformes All the best Of Thanks. Its a longer term project, I have been thinking about a light weight rifle in a cartridge between the .17hmr and .22-250. Some people have said just get a .223 that can handle 40gn bullets pushed hard or get rid of the .22-250 and do it all with a super flat .243 shooting 53gn. However, I've got a lot of curiosity for the .17 rem, it sounds great for vermin and the occasional fox with 25gn bullets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 At one time it use to be said that a 17rem never went much past 1000yds! I believe there is some truth in it but not actually tested it! This is why I always say it is a very safe combo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 In theory with a top end charge under a 25gr V Max it's still 400ftlbs at 300 and just over half that at 500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 I just thought that having a small action would mean not wasting and length on the bolt throw. Single shot would be great, a ruger no 1 or maybe one of those rossi break open rifles. I shoot a Ruger No 1 in 22 Hornet and would suggest that it probably cannot be described as a light weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 I chose the 595 for my base action but as nice as it is the rem 700 has more options but may take some fiddling to get the satisfaction from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 some ideas. http://www.guntrader.co.uk/Guns-For-Sale/results.php?fetch=Results&Filter[NewType][]=Action&Filter[NewMechanism][]=Bolt%20Action&Filter[NewMechanism][]=Straight%20Pull&Filter[NewMechanism][]=TILTING%20BLOCK&perPage=30&sortField=Price&sortOrder=asc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sako7mm Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Sako A1 or L461. Perfectly scaled down for the 17 Rem, not a medium length action making do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/240869-my-first-build17-ackley-hornet/?hl=%2B.17+%2Backley+%2Bhornet I too was on the look out for a .17rem and had a .22-250 but found ballistically they were too close for what I wanted so This is what I built..... a very small lightweight rifle and very accurate and quiet....11.5 grn reloader 7 pushes a 25grn hollow point at 3550fps or a 20gr vmax at 3650fps with deadly accuracy...wouldn't need any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldon Cooper Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/240869-my-first-build17-ackley-hornet/?hl=%2B.17+%2Backley+%2Bhornet I too was on the look out for a .17rem and had a .22-250 but found ballistically they were too close for what I wanted so This is what I built..... a very small lightweight rifle and very accurate and quiet....11.5 grn reloader 7 pushes a 25grn hollow point at 3550fps or a 20gr vmax at 3650fps with deadly accuracy...wouldn't need any more. Whats the max range you use the hornet out to? And whats it like on the foxes. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted May 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/240869-my-first-build17-ackley-hornet/?hl=%2B.17+%2Backley+%2Bhornet I too was on the look out for a .17rem and had a .22-250 but found ballistically they were too close for what I wanted so This is what I built..... a very small lightweight rifle and very accurate and quiet....11.5 grn reloader 7 pushes a 25grn hollow point at 3550fps or a 20gr vmax at 3650fps with deadly accuracy...wouldn't need any more. Very interesting. The problem for me is that I have no experience of any .17 CF so my decision would be made on what I read on the interweb. I suppose the .17H would be able to do 90% of whatever I would do with this rifle, but given that the .17 Rem is not going to be noticably more expensive to reload for and will have a flatter trajectory to 300m I think that might be best for me. It would be interesting to know whether there is and difference in recoil or noise between the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizzbangwhallop Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 Sako did a .17Rem in the short A1 action but I found an A1 in .222 as a donor for my .20Prac build... nicely done by Neil McKillop with a Pacnor super Match and now sits in a McMillan stock - lovely. Then a Tikka 595 .17rem came up and the HMR went in favour of that. Both are little crackers and the .17 is just a big grin! Just one click difference between 100m and 200m. The longer action of the 595 makes it easier to fit 'scopes, mounts and rails etc. I've currently got an Evolution Gun Works pic rail (from Kinneysshootingsupplies) on it so I can switch between a Swaro Z6i in Recknagel QR mounts (from Alan Rhone's) and a Drone Pro NV 'scope - the EGW rail is on backwards to give me better eye relief on the Drone. Cheers Fizz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 Sako did a .17Rem in the short A1 action but I found an A1 in .222 as a donor for my .20Prac build... nicely done by Neil McKillop with a Pacnor super Match and now sits in a McMillan stock - lovely. Then a Tikka 595 .17rem came up and the HMR went in favour of that. Both are little crackers and the .17 is just a big grin! Just one click difference between 100m and 200m. The longer action of the 595 makes it easier to fit 'scopes, mounts and rails etc. I've currently got an Evolution Gun Works pic rail (from Kinneysshootingsupplies) on it so I can switch between a Swaro Z6i in Recknagel QR mounts (from Alan Rhone's) and a Drone Pro NV 'scope - the EGW rail is on backwards to give me better eye relief on the Drone. Cheers Fizz How you getting on with the practical fizz ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie g Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 go for the tikka m595 action buddy. had 17 remington and 17 fireball built on these actions very good. the fireball wont feed from this action though. so single shot only. the little sako actions will feed both though due to the way it feeds. 17 remington tikka i had feed perfect as you would expect. no need to go heavy. just have it in a plastic stock and sporter barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 Any of you 17rem guy's using H BL-C2? That is what a friend use to use. U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steyrman Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 I have a Tikka 590 17 rem arriving tomorrow to my local RFD on the condition that if its not what i want i can ship it back to them if that is the case i will be looking for a 590/595 donor action myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 Very interesting. The problem for me is that I have no experience of any .17 CF so my decision would be made on what I read on the interweb. I suppose the .17H would be able to do 90% of whatever I would do with this rifle, but given that the .17 Rem is not going to be noticably more expensive to reload for and will have a flatter trajectory to 300m I think that might be best for me. It would be interesting to know whether there is and difference in recoil or noise between the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 (edited) As you can say there set for same bullet just I've set it to 4000fps nearer to .17rem and out to 300 yards its one inch drop which is nothing really.... What I've found with the ackley hornet is .2 grain powder equals approx 100 fps in speed... I think the gun has more to give as there's reports the yanks are pushing it to 4000fps but I'm happy with how it runs now. Using 20grn vmax data Edited May 29, 2014 by SPARKIE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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