lexikia Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 After forking out £35 for 5 litres of Clinic Ace Herbicide, I also purchased a pump sprayer and tackled the weeds in my garden. Was disapointed first but now 5 weeks later all weeds gone and slowly disapearing into the ground. Only took 500ml and 10L of water. Loads left for the next lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 That's the good thing about systemic weed killers, slow but sure. I would repeat in a few weeks once the next batch of weeds germinate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sable Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 look up depitox you cant beat it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smig4373 Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 After forking out £35 for 5 litres of Clinic Ace Herbicide, I also purchased a pump sprayer and tackled the weeds in my garden. Was disapointed first but now 5 weeks later all weeds gone and slowly disapearing into the ground. Only took 500ml and 10L of water. Loads left for the next lot. 500ml for 10 ltrs is a bit heavy... We used to use clinic ace with a ratio of 200 ml to 15 ltrs on general weed clearance etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexikia Posted June 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 500ml for 10 ltrs is a bit heavy... We used to use clinic ace with a ratio of 200 ml to 15 ltrs on general weed clearance etc To be honest the instructions although many pages long but mainly on safe handling etc are a bit vague on how much to use, so I was bit cheeky and emailed a seller on ebay who told me to use 500ml per 10l. In future I will use less as you say. Thanks for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Without meaning to offend, this is why it is supposed to be for professional use. The label does say the rate for a knapsack and does say the minimum volume of water to use per hectare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastair0903 Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 I am supprised it can be brought on eBay , do you have to provide details of pa1 and pa2 qualifications for safe use ( pa6 for knapsack ) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medic1281 Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 I've never provided details of pa1 or pa2 when buying it from local ag merchants. Always been bought cash aswell so not even on farm account. Never once been questioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastair0903 Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Yet farmers have to get qualified for the safe handling of pesticides , I suppose I will handle a lot more in a year , but still not good in the wrong hands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 To be honest the instructions although many pages long but mainly on safe handling etc are a bit vague on how much to use, so I was bit cheeky and emailed a seller on ebay who told me to use 500ml per 10l. In future I will use less as you say. Thanks for this. I seem to recall 100ml for 5 litres is correct? I might be abit off, last used it for spraying off rough tulips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 (edited) Dunno wot stuff u bought but i have just been using some clinic ace as well it it was pretty clear exactly wot rates for different applications, (have u found the wee booklet thingy that is behind 1 of the labels?) The reccomended dose i was using was 200ml to 10l for knapsack (althou they're was other rates for different uses) Seemingly they have changed the rules fairly recently, i usually get away with buying it on a mates farm account as u used to only needa holdig number, this time they would not let me have any unless i had my spraying ticket I agree with u mat Edited June 7, 2014 by scotslad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 I am supprised it can be brought on eBay , do you have to provide details of pa1 and pa2 qualifications for safe use ( pa6 for knapsack ) ? it'd be pa1 and pa6 you'd need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastair0903 Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 As explained in the brackets . Even farmers over 50 who have used pesticides all their lives safely now have to be qualified , my father is not happy about this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Sodding ridiculous as you can buy all sorts of nasties like rat poisons etc. But the PC brigade now want tickets for everything, the clue is in the title of the product( killer ) if any fool plays around with it they know it's not going to go well. Don't need a license to buy fuel and only a spark needed for that to wrong. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexikia Posted June 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 I did buy a Knapsack from Amazon. Please excuse my ignorance but why are these chemicals available to the general public? I just wanted a weed killer that did it's job. They are availble on ebay. Didn't mean to offend any one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Don't worry about it, just read the safety data sheet for chemicals before use. It done what you wanted and your happy. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennett Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Don't think you personally offended any one, it's more the fact that we spend a fortune on spraying qualifications etc and have to have approved storage, wash out regs, annually tested equipment and the labels are quite clear on doses, spray volumes, max dose,max applications per year. But any body can buy it on ebay and put it on at whatever dose, however they want! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medic1281 Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Clinic ace is a relatively safe chemical for humans, but can do damage to the environment if used incorrectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 You haven't offended anyone as far as I know. It just isn't really right that anybody can buy such quantities of industrial chemicals willy-nilly. I have to jump through all sorts of hoops to use it legally and anybody else just goes and gets some off ebay and squirts it round their garden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Sodding ridiculous as you can buy all sorts of nasties like rat poisons etc. But the PC brigade now want tickets for everything, the clue is in the title of the product( killer ) if any fool plays around with it they know it's not going to go well. Don't need a license to buy fuel and only a spark needed for that to wrong. Figgy I think you've missed the point. The point is that any old idiot can go online and buy the stuff and spray it left right and centre and do who knows what damage, but those of us using it in a professional capacity have to have all sorts of qualifications and comply to storage/useage regulations etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 It's only weedkiller who is going to spray it everywhere. Can understand if it was strichnein or something. But glyphosate so what if it's a bit more concentrated, all chemicals should be stored correctly. There are plenty of household chemicals that will do a lot more damage. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 The problem is not with the chemicals it's with the need for tickets for every bloody thing. I used to buy all sorts of very nasty acids to clear drains,boiler heat exchangers etc. now hard to obtain as you need a licence. Things are getting crazy someone is getting rich of all this qualification carry on. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastair0903 Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 I see your point figgy , I have a ticket to drive an angle grinder :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 I am very much anti all this ticket to do everything malarkey but it still isn't right that Joe Public can go out and buy industrial strength chemicals and use a silly amount because "a bit more won't hurt". I don't mind that they can buy them as long as they use the correct rate and understand how to calculate that rate from the info on the label. The OP had the good sense to read the label, realise he didn't really understand it and seek further advice. Unfortunately he asked some muppet off ebay who told him wrong. I bet most folk are putting 10 litre/ha or more! I agree that glyphosate isn't the most poisonous of things out there but it does have potential for disaster. Scroll back a bit and someone is recommending 2,4 D as an alternative. Great. It isn't right but I also know plenty of farmers with the same approach. Even read about a fella that sprays his fields with plain water first to see how much chemical he will need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Shame sodium chlorate was banned by the EU as that was the best weedkiller i've ever used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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