Penelope Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Yep, reported in the City AM paper yesterday that fuel prices are going up. Don't want to put ideas in their heads but I guess the cost of fuel will go up again now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Yep, reported in the City AM paper yesterday that fuel prices are going up. Cant be FM says we are not reliant on oil from the affected region, so I cant for the life of me figure out why it should affect us. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdsallpl Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) Not sure gassing is a good way to go about it But very sadly is it much worse than what they are doing to each other anyway. Lives are being lost. The only difference now is that the people who are trying to control it (in theory anyway) have been elected to do so Saddam was a dangerous criminal. Edited June 18, 2014 by birdsallpl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta06 Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 My employer has significant numbers of workers in Iraq, on 6 major oil plants. 70% comes back to Europe via Italian markets. Not sure where FM got his info. Scary times for colleagues there - we had similar issues in Syria and lost a number of friends in the Algeria refinery attack a while back. Yes, everyone is there through choice, but quite unpleasant at the moment. We were already 'in country' prior to the US invasion, so the oil has been flowing for some time. The profit sharing agreement terms haven't changed either, still Iraq gov and various international partners. Other than lots of dead people, I don't see any outcomes that would make anyone happy from the occupation of Iraq. I hasten to add, lots of dead people is NOT a positive outcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Only 12% of American oil comes from the ME and about 22% of ours most of this from Saudi Arabia. Oil prices may well be indiscriminately increased but even with the loss of Iraqi production to OPEC the availability of reserves shouldn't be affected. I would be very surprised in view of the fact that a GE is due the current government would risk jeopardy of the economic recovery by committing to a military conflict which would artificially inflate fuel prices and heap more misery on millions of British Voters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Only 12% of American oil comes from the ME and about 22% of ours most of this from Saudi Arabia. Oil prices may well be indiscriminately increased but even with the loss of Iraqi production to OPEC the availability of reserves shouldn't be affected. I would be very surprised in view of the fact that a GE is due the current government would risk jeopardy of the economic recovery by committing to a military conflict which would artificially inflate fuel prices and heap more misery on millions of British Voters. And where will the countries who get their bulk supplies via Iraq get the oil they need now? and what will happen to the prices when they start taking part of our supply and oh boy is it going to affect YOU and ME and the whole economy, hence the yanks and us will go in sooner or later. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepasty Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 the oil price rise is a simple profiteering exercise... dont you love capitalism! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFC Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 http://news.sky.com/story/1284641/mortar-attack-on-iraqs-biggest-oil-refinery No, I don't think invading Iraq was worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Seems the PM thinks its everything to do with us? I await the left replies and the inevitable imperialist claptrap they will spout. KW http://news.sky.com/story/1284490/pm-warns-iraq-terrorists-will-hit-uk-at-home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepasty Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 If public protests start against sending more of our boys and girls to their deaths.... I will be one of the said protesters. Enough is enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted June 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 just let them get on with it...when it all is sorted amongst themselves...they will need to sell the oil on the world market to pay the grave diggers and buy more goats for recreational use...............if the west go back in it will just take longer and more expensive....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 If public protests start against sending more of our boys and girls to their deaths.... I will be one of the said protesters. Enough is enough. will you protest when your life style is threatened and will you protest when an Islamist atrocity does happen here on our soil? KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 I think it is a complete waste of time trying to help an awful lot of 3rd world/tribal countries. Not that i don't think we should but it would just not do any good. Democracy simply doesn't work in most of them, most of there tribal systems are based on fear, so most democracy or backing down would be a sign of weakness. About 20 odd years ago a mate went out to Ghana to work on a big mine, few stories but 1 of them a black worker came to white secure compound asking to stay as a tribal war had broke out and he was from a different tribe to the rest of the work force. This fella drove a big dumper 1 of the better more respected jobs and had worked there for 15+ years. The next day his work 'mates' dragged him out his machine at tea break and cut him to pieces with machete's. How anyone could do that to a person, never mind someone u have worked with for such a long time. Just a complete different mindset. Even the way they often treat women/kids in some of these countries esp in war time, just a complete different mind set, just not normal to most western minds/attitudes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepasty Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 will you protest when your life style is threatened and will you protest when an Islamist atrocity does happen here on our soil? KW I dont sign up to your "prediction" of the future, neither of those will happen. Particularly not as a result of the current middle east troubles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 I dont sign up to your "prediction" of the future, neither of those will happen. Particularly not as a result of the current middle east troubles. Are you an ostrich? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepasty Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) as much as you are a clairvoyant. Edited June 18, 2014 by thepasty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) are you a clairvoyant. Yes, here's Saturday's lotto numbers 4, 16, 19, 28, 37 and 39 bonus ball 22 Edited June 18, 2014 by toontastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Seems the PM thinks its everything to do with us? I await the left replies and the inevitable imperialist claptrap they will spout. KW http://news.sky.com/story/1284490/pm-warns-iraq-terrorists-will-hit-uk-at-home Sounds like Blair all over again, doesn't it? But then Dave is "the heir to Blair" so what can we expect? Certainly the UK is at risk from Muslims who travel to war zones around the world and return to Britain radicalised. But we are not at risk from these miserable people and their primitive superstitious fanaticism because we failed to join in their wretched wars but because we let them into our country in the first place. If Dave thinks that wading into any of these ridiculous religious feuds and flinging a few bombs around is going to transform "British" Muslims into good little Anglo Saxon voters he is an even bigger fool than Blair, if such a thing is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFC Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Sounds like Blair all over again, doesn't it? But then Dave is "the heir to Blair" so what can we expect? Certainly the UK is at risk from Muslims who travel to war zones around the world and return to Britain radicalised. But we are not at risk from these miserable people and their primitive superstitious fanaticism because we failed to join in their wretched wars but because we let them into our country in the first place. If Dave thinks that wading into any of these ridiculous religious feuds and flinging a few bombs around is going to transform "British" Muslims into good little Anglo Saxon voters he is an even bigger fool than Blair, if such a thing is possible. And many who are over here have relatives over there who have been killed by us so they may wish to wreak revenge on us. I'm not advocating it but I am surprised that there have not been more attacks here by people believing they are exacting revenge for what we have done over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ack-ack Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Yes, here's Saturday's lotto numbers 4, 16, 19, 28, 37 and 39 bonus ball 22 You an infidel or something brother toontastic? Gambling is not cool :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 will you protest when your life style is threatened and will you protest when an Islamist atrocity does happen here on our soil? KW we keep out of it they may leave us alone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 If public protests start against sending more of our boys and girls to their deaths.... I will be one of the said protesters. Enough is enough. your not wrong why should our people be sent to die there just so our politicians can have a divy up we should keep out and stay out nothing to do with us what happens in iraq or who runs it its not our country end off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 we keep out of it they may leave us alone :lol: :lol: :lol: KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 What everyone is missing is precisely what it takes to get the region under control. The answer is not an occupying force (that costs too much and history has shown us it doesn't work long term) the answer is another Saddam and the only other stable Country in the region (excluding Israel) with the ability to 'get it done' is Iran. Oh the hilarity and irony of asking Iran to fix our mess. A region in the stone age with entrenched feudal hatred, awash with AK47s, hand held rocket launchers, oil money and money from the US. It's not going to end well and our fair view of conflict and the Geneva conventions means no country from the west can ever go as far as the enemy and so won't be able to get 'it' done. Incidentally, the agreement the US had with Afganistan included the removal of US troups from the Country. I reckon that ones getting a rethink about now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Yes, here's Saturday's lotto numbers 4, 16, 19, 28, 37 and 39 bonus ball 22 I'm going to use these numbers and they better win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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