Salop Matt Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 As above folks, 2 years ago a house 4 doors down was broken into that had no alarm and old wooden double glazing, so we upgraded to new PVC double glazing and a good front door and also had the alarm serviced. 4 months ago there was a strange bloke sat in a car opposite our house photographing us and the neibours and our houses so unknow reason, when approaced he drove off so his VRN was passed onto the police. Today lunch time a lady was in the street behaving very weirdly and trying to let herself into other folks homes, the police were called and shes been arrested. So now I want to increase our home security, am happy with the alarm and its setup as its a good one and well maintained. So am looking at CCTV covering the back garden and the fron door/drive. Also some carpet gripper on the fence at the back. So am I best paying the big money to have someone else do it, or can I but the stuff myself and set it up to save the money ? Am going to speak to a copper I know and ask him to come and look arounbd the house and see what he advises and see what weeknesses he can see if any. Cheers guys Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Is putting carpet gripper on your fences allowed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted September 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Neibours are happy with it and feel the same, no kids to worry about and screw fix sell a brown plastic spike strip also ! Will see what our copper friend says as he should be clued up on this sort of thing. My main interest is a camera system to cover: * The front door, * Front of house, *Side of house and * Rear of house. ATB Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexikia Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 ESP Guard cam on front and back of house, Like normal floods but with camera, photo's are very good quaility, you can also have a voice warning if required. Had visitors a few months ago and picture of him staring into the camera was, well a picture. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002YWZXX6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Soon ran off when he heard warning. Also if you have PVC doors, change locks to ABS, anti snap locks, cost £30 but if you look on youtube how easy it is to snap the standard euro lock, well worth it. Was thinking of buying one of these but not sure if legal, http://www.surplusstore.co.uk/12-gauge-blank-firing-trip-wire-alarm-gate.html, would wake all neighbours though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Neibours are happy with it and feel the same, no kids to worry about and screw fix sell a brown plastic spike strip also ! Will see what our copper friend says as he should be clued up on this sort of thing. My main interest is a camera system to cover: * The front door, * Front of house, *Side of house and * Rear of house. ATB Matt Screwfix flyer just come through the door and they have got some cctv stuff on offer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigadam Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Pay more mate maplin sets aren't worth a **** you can get a decent camera for 70 quid and just a cheap dvr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHOOTEMUP Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 (edited) I Fitted a cheap chinese 8 camera system last year and it works very well just plug it all in and off it goes but the cameras are not brilliant with regards clarity but the night vision is good. this cost me about £175 off evil bay but I also purchased some Sony cameras off there which are very good and they were around the £28 each mark and worth it and don't forget to ensure that everyone can see your cameras I live in a rural location with no street lights so I also put up some cheap £7.99 evil bay infra red illuminators which glow red at night and remind people that your security is good Also used a reasonable hard drive which I also got at the time for £70 ( Amazon) and records for 90 days continuously on sort of a loop system for all eight cameras also this system can be put on your computer link so you can remotely view on you phone anywhere you may be hope this helps you a bit And you will be amazed at the visitors your home has particularly at night that you never knew about !! Edited September 2, 2014 by SHOOTEMUP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superspark Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 I fitted a 4 camera system where one of the camera's is a full tilt/ pan and zoom all night night vision. They all record to time/ date stampt 1000GB hard drive. So far its caught 3 hit and run incedents, all successfully prosecuted and many various other small crimes, is idiot's pinching dust caps etcetera. Makes the area a much safer place to live as the crimbos seem to stay well away. I installed the custom system myself which cost arround £3500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixhills 69 Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Is putting carpet gripper on your fences allowed? Yes it's fine as long as it doesn't over hang onto a public foot path Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon69 Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 (edited) if you do get a system, either get one where the DVR sends the recorded images to an online server and alerts you by text, or make sure you secure or hide it very well ! the professional crims will wear face masks and/or steal the DVR! Take a look at a company called SystemQ who provide equipment to the trade. They have lots of information and tips on what you may need/want from a system all online. edit: www.systemq.com Edited September 2, 2014 by silver pigeon69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 I had thought about going down the CCTV route at my old house but came to the conclusion that people would think I had something worth stealing if I had that up...I just got a decent alarm, more sensors and some tremor alarms on the back windows...if someone wants in your house they will get in, if you have CCTV they just pull hoods over there faces and still get in..but a decent loud alarm will put them off....just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyChris Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 (edited) CCTV does have its pros and cons. Some people put them all over their house but I've found that the cameras are then too high to record anything useful as their faces can't be seen or they cover their faces. The best advice I give people for crime prevention is to have some very obvious cameras that people can see and act as a deterrent. Then you need a couple of covert cameras that are hidden away but at eye level and close enough to record decent footage. This way if people do come near your house you can still record good footage without them moving the cameras. When they see the obvious ones 15 foot up your house wall they never bother looking for covert ones. Then just get a decent recorder and hide it somewhere where it can't easily be found. At the end of the day if someone wants to get in they will with the two most common methods being pre planned lock snapping (usually to get your car) or brick through a rear patio window as most neighbours ignore alarms! Edited September 2, 2014 by FoxyChris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Through windows - at eye level can work. I have ones that email you images on movement or can also upload to a server - you get false alarms, but handy to have a record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Get the spikes on the fence, Mark your property, put a neighborhood watch sign in the window and make sure the alarm boxes are shiney clean. Put cctv in places they can't be moved by passers by and are clear to see. Make sure they are passive infra red and full colour in day. More importantly ensure you leave temptation out of the crooks sight ie now laptops on sofas in clear view from a window. Lock the doors at night and close Windows. I cannot remember, and I've been to thousands of burglaries the last time a thief actually had to force his way in, mostly the doors and sometimes the Windows are either open or unlocked. If you don't like the look of someone challange them or call police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Covert or overt CCTV? They are easy to set up, and install just buy decent cable and a crimper the pre made cables are a pig to run neatly. And a decent power supply for the cams. There's loads of stuff out there Henry's have some good deals on cameras and stuff most dvrs are naff we use lots of pro spec ones and still have issues the main thing is check it regularly as the last thing you need is failed drive when something has happened! I would go for a 4 camera dvr 2 external overt and 2 internal covert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peskyfoxs Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 I have a swann system I installed myself, can view from my phone and it emails me a picture whenever motion is detected, records 24/7 you can set the motion areas easily for instance any vehicle entering our road is photographed at least twice. I upgraded the front camera so you can make out reg numbers. Anyone going near the house and the pic is fine for identification Cost about 200 not including upgrades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 http://www.henrys.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Is putting carpet gripper on your fences allowed? Carpet gripper is not allowed by law, but this is: http://www.primrose.co.uk/-p-365.html?adtype=pla&kwd=&option=283&gclid=CJm04ai-xMACFRMatAodrkwAcw It did'nt stop the cats walking across my back garden wall though. They just 'pussy footed' across it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexikia Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 I had thought about going down the CCTV route at my old house but came to the conclusion that people would think I had something worth stealing if I had that up...I just got a decent alarm, more sensors and some tremor alarms on the back windows...if someone wants in your house they will get in, if you have CCTV they just pull hoods over there faces and still get in..but a decent loud alarm will put them off....just my opinion. You would think so. Last Xmas eve my wife went out with her friends and didn't take a key, so I put alarm on, as I do every evening and went to bed to watch tv. At around 10:30pm the alarm went off, I rushed down downstairs to see some one in the porch area, he ran off when he saw me. My alarm is an ADT system, not a Wickes cheapo unit. But when the police arrived he said they will stand around to see if any one reacts to the alarm. No deterent what ever to these theiving sumbags. My fault for not locking front door. Lesson learnt and now with door chain attached. As aid in a previous thread, if they want to gain entry they will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 The problem is with our PC laws if you do something and an intruder gets hurt he/she can claim compensation from you years ago people used to put broken bottles on top of walls but that I think was baned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 The problem is with our PC laws if you do something and an intruder gets hurt he/she can claim compensation from you years ago people used to put broken bottles on top of walls but that I think was baned. Exactly. The days have gone when broken glass and other 'dangerous' items could be fitted around one's property. But the plastic strips are legal, and when I bought mine, they came with a small laminated warning sign that you can fix somewhere to 'alert' would be intruders that they may get hurt when they try and get into your premises. The warning sign means that you cannot be prosecuted. For some reason though, the cats ignored it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett1985 Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Easy solution, bang one of these up in the front window....lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southeastpete Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Resurrecting this as I am also looking at installing CCTV. I'm going to put in a 2 camera system that I can add 2 more to at a later date. View on phone etc. I'm on a budget. But don't want false economy... People have said DVRs are likely to break, so I'm guessing if want one with a warranty? Also does anyone have any ideas how I can run the cables into my attic with least destruction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon69 Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Yes, but all depends on where you want the cameras and the dvr and if you want the dvr connected to your TV. Also if you have a power supply in the loft? sent you a PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Makro had some offers on recently on Swann cctv stuff. Some 800tvl high definiton cameras combined with a dvr - quite reasonably priced package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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