viking Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 Has anyone known of an RFD charging more for the further away the gun is going? Iv never heard of this before. Just been told it will be £70 rather than £30 as the gun I'm sending is going to Scotland. Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 Not for RFD, but a lot of deliveries for normal parcels are dearer to some parts of Scotland and Ireland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 Might be the courier charges more for Scotland. Pretty soon they may not deliver to Scotland at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 I thought most used Parcelforce which is a fixed national courier price, so I would be surprised to hear this. If they use TNT, I guess there may be an additional cost but that sounds very steep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted September 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 It's not my normal RFD. Iv just sold a gun but I'm off to the Lake District on Friday so I was going to take the gun and send it from a RFD up there. Don't think I will bother at that price. He also said it depends on the weight, maybe he thinks I'm sending a cannon.. Thanks. Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 Depends where in Scotland. Western Isles, Orkney, Shetland and a lot of the Highlands are often more expensive to send stuff to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graiglearn Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 someone is trying to screw you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 I thought most used Parcelforce which is a fixed national courier price, so I would be surprised to hear this. If they use TNT, I guess there may be an additional cost but that sounds very steep. Though Parcelforce are owned by the Royal Mail, I don't think they are required to adhere to the universal uniform pricing for the UK as the Royal Mail are. If you look here, you will see that the Highlands and Islands are in a different zone: http://www.parcelforce.com/our-uk-delivery-zones-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 Though Parcelforce are owned by the Royal Mail, I don't think they are required to adhere to the universal uniform pricing for the UK as the Royal Mail are. If you look here, you will see that the Highlands and Islands are in a different zone: http://www.parcelforce.com/our-uk-delivery-zones-0 Just did a test on their site - looks like they do charge the same (at least with the sample postcodes I tested) - only difference is the speed of delivery they offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted September 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 Doesn't look that far up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 I thought most used Parcelforce which is a fixed national courier price, so I would be surprised to hear this. If they use TNT, I guess there may be an additional cost but that sounds very steep. Spot on. But some do use TNT who charge like Rhino's even after discounted prices. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 Parcelforce charge more for certain areas of Scotland can't remember the areas mind, nearly got caught out a few years ago. Parcelforce charge more for certain areas of Scotland can't remember the areas mind, nearly got caught out a few years ago. But it wasn't that much more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 It's not that far up but it's on the islands so will incur higher charges usually, even though you can drive it. Look at the route one big horseshoe in and back out. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt1980 Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 Most couriers say fixed price except certain postcodes etc, only way to do it is check before you sell! I sold just a stick and it cost £45 to send! My company uses 4 different couriers and that was the cheapest! It was out in the sticks in Scotland, buyer knew it would cost more and was fine as he was used to it! Still cheaper than driving up there yourself!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted September 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 Not going to bother now. No way I'm paying £70 to send a gun. If it turns out that's what my usual shop charges then fair enough. Cheers. Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ky322 Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 I have had guns sent up before, £30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 Send it by Parcelforce yourself, as long as it's going to an RFD you're OK to do so. Last one I sent was about £25 including £400 compensation, for £500 it's about £28. My RFD (who was away) only charges actual cost which for his contract rate is just under £19. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted September 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 So I can take it to the post office and send it via parcel force? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 No you can't it needs to go via the hazardous goods chain they will charge you more and you'll need an account! Get his RFD to collect it from you is the easiest and probably cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 No it doesn't, as long as you use ParcelForce 48 or 24 that's all you need. ParcelForce regs as from July 13th "Guns for sporting use(Section 1 and Section 2 firearms, low-powered air weapons and their component parts)Packaging guidelines: May be sent in compliance with UK law and subject to any applicable controls on the possession of firearms. Only low-powered air weaponsare accepted by Parcelforce Worldwide. Sender’s name and address must be visible on the parcel." You have authority to have it and the RFD has authority to receive it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Didn't realise Parcelforce had changed their policy so I stand corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) Their website still says they will only post RFD to RFD - and only account holders. http://www.parcelforce.com/sites/default/files/RM%20Dangerous%20Goods%20Leaflet.pdf Edited September 19, 2014 by aris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 (edited) That's for business account holders. Personal customers are different, the restrictions are here, www.royalmail.com/sites/default/files/DangerousGoods_Leaflet_July2013.pdf Edited September 20, 2014 by phaedra1106 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayman Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 There are two Gun Carriage schemes in common use GTA ( Gun Trade Association) members have access to a group scheme with TNT. With TNT, Highlands and Islands are all significantly more expensive than mainland England and Scottish Lowlands. BASC Trade members have access to a ParcelForce group scheme. This is about half the TNT price, and has fewer surcharged zones These negotiated group rates are much lower to the scheme members than the ad-hoc domestic tariffs by these carriers. An RFD should be able to charge a similar price to the over-the-counter price for PF24 at the Post-Office, and still make a profit. Any RFD in a scheme can arrange for the gun to be collected directly from you, and delivered to the destination RFD. This is known as carriage forward services. The receiving RFD should be able to arrange this for you - but price will depend on which scheme they are in, what that scheme charges for the Postcodes concerned, and of course the receiving RFD's administration charge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Indeed, my usual RFD only charges me at cost which (from memory) is under £19. I do appreciate his services and make sure to drop off the odd bottle of whisky or pay a bit extra for other things I get off him over the year, if it's say £22 for something I'll usually just give him £25 and call it even. A good RFD can be a Godsend when you read about how much others charge for the same services. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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