Rochester and Strood by election

[Psyxologos]

 

Predictably boring as usual.

 

Maybe you could enlighten us as to which side of the political fence you sit? I know I've asked before, but you must have some idea?

 

As always, you dodge the issue. Please, would you like to share with us your sentiments for the quote farce's 'party' official and the nazi from Britain first made? Do you share Edmund's opinions? How do you feel that britain first is endorsing the 'party' you support? Are you proud?

[Reece]

It'll be interesting to see if any more MPs defect to UKIP after this. Carswell and Reckless aren't the only strong Euroskeptics in the Conservative party, there are other backbench MPs who might make the move to UKIP if they win this by election. And if that were to happen, what would the effect be on the Conservative party?

[Fisherman Mike]

It'll be interesting to see if any more MPs defect to UKIP after this. Carswell and Reckless aren't the only strong Euroskeptics in the Conservative party, there are other backbench MPs who might make the move to UKIP if they win this by election. And if that were to happen, what would the effect be on the Conservative party?

zero...They would probably pick up some slack from new Labour or the Lib Dems.

 

Carswell and Reckless are in it for their own political Kudos and financial gain..they couldn't give a toss about the voter, I'm afraid the last real politicians disappeared 20 years ago.

[poontang]

 

As always, you dodge the issue. Please, would you like to share with us your sentiments for the quote farce's 'party' official and the nazi from Britain first made? Do you share Edmund's opinions? How do you feel that britain first is endorsing the 'party' you support? Are you proud?

 

No, I don't support Ms Edmunds opinions, and No, I don't like the fact that Britain First are trying to align themselves to UKIP. The fact that Mark Reckless and UKIP have categorically stated that they are in no way shape or form linked to Britain First is good enough for me.

 

Now, I've answered your questions perhaps you'll stop dodging the issues and answer mine?

[Psyxologos]

 

No, I don't support Ms Edmunds opinions, and No, I don't like the fact that Britain First are trying to align themselves to UKIP. The fact that Mark Reckless and UKIP have categorically stated that they are in no way shape or form linked to Britain First is good enough for me.

 

Now, I've answered your questions perhaps you'll stop dodging the issues and answer mine?

 

Thanks for that. Indeed, there seems to be a 'free for all' in farce's 'party' where each individual has their own manifesto. Maybe this is a good thing, seeing that there is no shared one for the 'party'.

 

I have many times before told you that I am not considering myself a supporter of any party in particular. I listen to what each party has to say, I evaluate their policies and I decide who to vote for each time I am about to exercise my democratic right. Surely this is a good thing, no?

[poontang]

 

 

I have many times before told you that I am not considering myself a supporter of any party in particular. I listen to what each party has to say, I evaluate their policies and I decide who to vote for each time I am about to exercise my democratic right. Surely this is a good thing, no?

 

Well that's very 'diplomatic' of you, indeed an answer any politician would be proud of!

 

I'm quite happy to pin my colours to the mast. It's a shame that some others, who are happy to knock my choice, aren't quite as forthcoming.

[Psyxologos]

 

Well that's very 'diplomatic' of you, indeed an answer any politician would be proud of!

 

I'm quite happy to pin my colours to the mast. It's a shame that some others, who are happy to knock my choice, aren't quite as forthcoming.

 

As I explained many times before, I like to make an informed choice every time as opposed to blindly following any political party. You are obviously happy to follow these people no matter what they say (as you demonstrated with this woman's ramblings about shopkeepers), this is your choice, your prerogative, your right. You have to live with it, not me.

[poontang]

 

As I explained many times before, I like to make an informed choice every time as opposed to blindly following any political party. You are obviously happy to follow these people no matter what they say (as you demonstrated with this woman's ramblings about shopkeepers), this is your choice, your prerogative, your right. You have to live with it, not me.

 

Yeah whatever.

 

Maybe you could tell us who your informed choice of party was the last time you voted then? Unless of course you've conveniently forgotten?

[Dominicrobed]

Yeah whatever.

 

Maybe you could tell us who your informed choice of party was the last time you voted then? Unless of course you've conveniently forgotten?

I think he might say raving looney hahahah

[Penelope]

Liebore lost 50% of their share of the vote and came in third and Liebore front bencher, (Former ) Shadow Attorney General Emily Thornberry has had to resign over a misjudged and some might say racist tweeted photo.

 

The Lib Dums were again beaten by the Cabbage Greens into last place.

[KFC]

Vote UKIP, get UKIP.

 

Good result

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Well done Mark Reckless

 

 

Is this the end of the Liberal Democrats?

[TriBsa]

Is this the end of the Liberal Democrats?

 

As a truly national party I would think yes. They'll have a few hotspots perhaps where they are strong but I would think that all their MP's will fit in a family saloon after next May.

Edited November 21, 2014 by TriBsa

[krugerandsmith]

Well done Mark Reckless

 

 

Is this the end of the Liberal Democrats?

 

Hmmm ... let me think ... Yes.

[matone]

Well done Mark Reckless

 

 

Is this the end of the Liberal Democrats?

Hope so .......

[The Croc]

Well done Mark Reckless and UKIP, good result

[overandunder2012]

they have done well, and im sure they will in may. then what they may actually have to help run the gaff ? im willing to bet when they get some power and it all ends in tears as it probably will when they've privatized everything and sold it all of to their chums taken all their voters benefits away the ukip backlash will be as spectacular as the support is now. what ever happens its going to be interesting. i think the british voter only hears we will be getting out of europe and we will stop those pesky foreigners he stops listening there and never asks what are ukips policy's. it dont really matter they will tick the box anyway

 

still i expect there will be a few pence of the price of a pint when you get a ukip chancellor

 

to be honest i think the british people deserve ukip it will teach em to read the small print next time

Edited November 21, 2014 by overandunder2012

[Lampwick]

The Tories must still be in bed! No mention of the By election on their website or Shapps Twitter account

 

So here you are Shappsl

 

It's a protest vote

It's a vote for Labour

Let's focus on our success's

You will only get a Referendum on Europe if you vote Conservative

 

Time to start making false promises?

 

This must REALLY hurt!

Edited November 21, 2014 by Lampwick

[Penelope]

He was interviewed on Radio 4 and said they were in a good position win the seat back in May, 'spose he had to really.

 

The Tories must still be in bed! No mention of the By election on their website or Shapps Twitter

So here you are Shappsl

It's a protest vote
It's a vote for Labour
Let's focus on our success's
You will only get a Referendum on Europe if you vote Conservative

Time to start making false promises?

This must REALLY hurt!

[TIGHTCHOKE]

The Tories must still be in bed! No mention of the By election on their website or Shapps Twitter account

 

So here you are Shappsl

 

It's a protest vote

It's a vote for Labour

Let's focus on our success's

You will only get a Referendum on Europe if you vote Conservative

 

Time to start making false promises?

 

This must REALLY hurt!

 

I agree with most of what you posted except one major point!!!!!

 

 

It is without doubt NOT a vote for Liebour!!!!!!

[grrclark]

I am fairly outspoken in not being a UKIP supporter, but I think that the outcome of yesterdays by-election was a good result.

 

It very clearly sends a message to the big two parties that the electorate is fed up with what we have now, as did the Scottish referendum, and it also makes the message very clear that rehashing old policies time and again or paying lip service to public concern is not going to work.

 

I would love to see another by-election in a Labour stronghold prior to the main event, especially in the north of England, that would be a good barometer of the voting intention of the traditional 'working class' voter.

 

The main thing that I think this result will help to achieve is to fire up the consciousness of the English voter, despite the vocal support around UKIP there is still a very large element of the electorate that do not support them. Having watched the election of 2 MP's it may well come as a reality shock that the kippers are very much capable of winning seats and cause people to question what else they stand for.

 

I will be very interested to see what happens in Wales as well regarding voting intention.

 

For those thinking about backing the kippers it should make them ask questions on their other policies and scratch below the surface of the one dimensional immigration/anti EU argument.

 

For those that are fearful of the kippers winning a larger share of the vote it may shake off some of the apathy surrounding politics in this country too.

 

One of the successes, if it can be called that, of the Scottish referendum was the level of public engagement during the campaign, especially in the last few months. If the apparent UKIP surge can help achieve the same in England and Wales that can only be good.

 

As an aside, the recent YouGov poll of the typical demographics of those that enjoy shooting it is little surprise that UKIP are so robustly supported on this forum. C2DE social grade and clear right wing bias, a perfect match for UKIP's image really.

 

If you have not seen the profile you can here https://yougov.co.uk/profiler#/Shooting/demographics

Edited November 21, 2014 by grrclark

[TIGHTCHOKE]

 

The main thing that I think this result will help to achieve is to fire up the consciousness of the English voter, despite the vocal support around UKIP there is still a very large element of the electorate that do not support them. Having watched the election of 2 MP's it may well come as a reality shock that the kippers are very much capable of winning seats and cause people to question what else they stand for.

 

 

Amen to that!

[victorismyhero]

I am fairly outspoken in not being a UKIP supporter, but I think that the outcome of yesterdays by-election was a good result.

 

It very clearly sends a message to the big two parties that the electorate is fed up with what we have now, as did the Scottish referendum, and it also makes the message very clear that rehashing old policies time and again or paying lip service to public concern is not going to work.

 

I would love to see another by-election in a Labour stronghold prior to the main event, especially in the north of England, that would be a good barometer of the voting intention of the traditional 'working class' voter.

 

The main thing that I think this result will help to achieve is to fire up the consciousness of the English voter, despite the vocal support around UKIP there is still a very large element of the electorate that do not support them. Having watched the election of 2 MP's it may well come as a reality shock that the kippers are very much capable of winning seats and cause people to question what else they stand for.

 

I will be very interested to see what happens in Wales as well regarding voting intention.

 

For those thinking about backing the kippers it should make them ask questions on their other policies and scratch below the surface of the one dimensional immigration/anti EU argument.

 

For those that are fearful of the kippers winning a larger share of the vote it may shake off some of the apathy surrounding politics in this country too.

 

One of the successes, if it can be called that, of the Scottish referendum was the level of public engagement during the campaign, especially in the last few months. If the apparent UKIP surge can help achieve the same in England and Wales that can only be good.

 

As an aside, the recent YouGov poll of the typical demographics of those that enjoy shooting it is little surprise that UKIP are so robustly supported on this forum. C2DE social grade and clear right wing bias, a perfect match for UKIP's image really.

 

If you have not seen the profile you can here https://yougov.co.uk/profiler#/Shooting/demographics

Yeah well....according to THAT ...we have £1,000 a month SPARE hmmmmmm

[TriBsa]

YouGov are hardly a credible source for anything.

[Gordon R]

grrclark - we don't always share the same view, but that is a decent post. :good: