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I know you can't be accurate because every one is different.

 

I wonder how many pints of average strength beer you need to drink to get 12 times the limit??

I just googled it and found anywhere between 1 unit to 2.28 units per pint .

I personally know people who drink 20+ pints and wouldn't put it past them to drive.

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Can anybody really drink 20 pints?

 

Aside from cost and alcohol poisoning, I think that my body would fail to process that much liquid, whether weak beer, blindness-inducing cider or just water.

 

I have seen my uncle, who was at the time working in the Sheffield steel rolling mills, sink 15 pints at lunchtime ( to re-hydrate himself ) and follow up with a further 15 pints in an evening session ( to relax ).

 

He refused to learn to drive though.

 

His consumption levels were not extraordinary in the heavy manual trades.

 

He also died in his 50's

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Can anybody really drink 20 pints?

 

Aside from cost and alcohol poisoning, I think that my body would fail to process that much liquid, whether weak beer, blindness-inducing cider or just water.

my brother in law now in his seventies used to put about eighteen pints back in a decent lunchtime session and then go back out at night.

 

KW

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Can anybody really drink 20 pints?

 

Aside from cost and alcohol poisoning, I think that my body would fail to process that much liquid, whether weak beer, blindness-inducing cider or just water.

 

The most I have EVER 'managed' was 12 between 7pm and 2am. I was 19 years old. I now get tipsy on my second pint and pretty much drunk after 4. I have not had more than 4 pints since my early 20s, as far as I can remember. I am nearly 40 now, by the way...

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I have seen my uncle, who was at the time working in the Sheffield steel rolling mills, sink 15 pints at lunchtime ( to re-hydrate himself ) and follow up with a further 15 pints in an evening session ( to relax ).

 

He refused to learn to drive though.

 

 

 

 

How would he have ever had time to learn to drive?

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Awful to hear of the tragedies and thoughts are with you Steve, nobody deserves to go through that because of a selfish scumbag.

 

I personally believe that if you can't go out and enjoy yourself without drinking alcohol because you are driving, stay in and have a drink and don't drive.

 

Anything that inhibits your senses whilst using a moving tonne of metal at a fast speed requiring full judgement and jedi reactions should be made zero tolerance, as per Bullet1747's post too.

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Whilst in no way minimising the dreadful stories we have heard here, it seems we are getting a bit of a ban the lot mentality going here, say for instance our league shoot on on weds eve we all go to the pub for a drink and a pint, we all take turns to drive, if its my turn I will have ONE pint or TWO shandies never any more never any less, and the same goes for whosoever turn to drive it is, that to me is a responsible attitude and demonstrates the ability to make a controlled decision,and after all there is a legal limit is there not, and why should I suffer a total ban due to the inability of few who dont take a responsible decision? and I also wonder how many here shouting for a ban have used a mobile phone or lit a fag whilst driving?

 

 

KW

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When I was younger I was walking home. I was at the top of a embankment. I heard a car revving getting louder. I continued walking. I got 1/2 way down when I saw a pug 205 doing at least 70 in a 30. It was clear something was up. I turned and ran. I had to dive through bushes. The car lost control taking a roundabout at 60.

It took out a lampost, the railings and a telegraph pole stopped it. When I got to me feet. To investigate. The pug engine was in the driver and passenger seat. The one guy got squished, the other was crawling away. There was a lot of blood. Cops turned up within about 3 minutes.

 

I still remember to this day the policeman stopped the guy crawling away (crawling on pavement) he was so drunk. The carnage was bad.

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Whilst in no way minimising the dreadful stories we have heard here, it seems we are getting a bit of a ban the lot mentality going here, say for instance our league shoot on on weds eve we all go to the pub for a drink and a pint, we all take turns to drink, if its my turn I will have ONE pint or TWO shandies never any more never any less, and the same goes for whosoever turn to drive it is, that to me is a responsible attitude and demonstrates the ability to make a controlled decision,and after all there is a legal limit is there not, and why should I suffer a total ban due to the inability of few who dont take a responsible decision? and I also wonder how many here shouting for a ban have used a mobile phone or lit a fag whilst driving?

 

 

KW

The issue really is, some people know their limit and also the legal limit is hard to judge on a drink you can buy due to each persons body type and metabolism being different. 1 pint for one man may not even make him feel a thing, whereas for another person, one pint can make them a bit squiffy.

 

This then equates to "Well, 1 pint will be fine" attitude and "well, I have my car here now and all my mates expect a lift" and it doesn't take much for a person to lose concentration as it is, let alone with a drug that reduces it being present in your system.

 

I agree that people who are responsible are affected, such as yourself KW, but there is too much scope for issues I feel (My opinion) with the current system.

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My wife's 9 year sister was killed many years ago by a drunk driver when he mounted the pavement and went straight over her and carried on without stopping. There were people standing at the bus stop across the road who witnessed it happen . Nobody got the full reg plate and he denied driving so he got away with it .

I never drink more than one pint if driving because I don't think I could live with the guilt if something like that happened

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Whilst in no way minimising the dreadful stories we have heard here, it seems we are getting a bit of a ban the lot mentality going here, say for instance our league shoot on on weds eve we all go to the pub for a drink and a pint, we all take turns to drive, if its my turn I will have ONE pint or TWO shandies never any more never any less, and the same goes for whosoever turn to drive it is, that to me is a responsible attitude and demonstrates the ability to make a controlled decision,and after all there is a legal limit is there not, and why should I suffer a total ban due to the inability of few who dont take a responsible decision? and I also wonder how many here shouting for a ban have used a mobile phone or lit a fag whilst driving?

 

 

KW

Although of course I agree that people who create these dreadful events should be dealt with in the severest way possible. However I believe kdubya has it spot on. It is all about taking responcibility for your actions. There are a hundred and one things that can create a road traffic accident. The competent proffessional people have made a decision on what is the safe legal limit for alcohol why challenge it.
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Tell me about it. The **** who killed my 14 year old son and his friend was 3 times over the limit, and had just had another 'fine' for driving whilst disqualified for the fourth time. Thankfully, the **** died at the scene, as did my son's friend. My son fought for his life for almost two days then lost the battle. 11 years tomorrow I lost him.

Banning people like that does not stop them driving. Banging them up for a long prison sentence keeps them off the roads for as long as they remain in prison. If he had been sent to prison for just a few weeks, my son and his friend would be here today, and I would not be taking flowers up the cemetery tomorrow morning!

 

Edit. My apologies for 'sounding off'. As you can imagine, its still very raw in my mind, even after 11 years.

i think its fair to say your allowed to be mad at drink drivers god know you have good enough reason to be

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on Anglia news last night , it reported Luton Police arrested a drink driver for being 12 times over the limit . this must be some sort of record .Not only should he not be driving ,he should be dead with that amount of alcohol inside him !!!

 

He must be a very hardened alcoholic

 

That's a BAC of 0.96 % and over twice the normal lethal dose

 

He had the equivalent of 3 pints of whiskey in his system.

 

Serious Jail time must be heading his way.

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I have just read all the posts to this topic and was horrified at most of them , I must apologize to those PW members who have lost a loved one or good friend for bringing back their tragic memories , Drive =don`t drink,,,,Drink = don`t drive

Yup, simples as that.

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I can't understand why so many companies have xmas parties during the week with free/cheap booze then expect people in work the following day.

 

We were working it out the other day, how long your body takes to process a good christmas party session (1 unit per hour)

 

if you started drinking at 19:00 - 8 pints, couple of glasses of wine with meal, couple of spirits and mixers = 28.5 units that would mean it wouldnt be out of your system till 23:00 the following night!

 

companies should make it a condition of attending that you dont drive to work the day after, if you have a scrap at a work function you can get sacked, IMO should be same if you get done for DD the day after

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