Paddy Galore! Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 Hi gents, i've been browsing ebay for car parts and came across a few things that I had the local garage fix for me, the most recent being a sensor. now on ebay I've found 2 types, both were well under what the garage charged me. this led me to delve a bit deeper and check on a few more bits, the current trend is they're all at least 50% cheaper. do most garages charge double for parts? or am I having my pants taken down by this particular firm? I feel a rant brewing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon 3 Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 There are lots of different quality parts available, if the garage fitted new genuine parts then these will normally be a lot more expensive. Or they may have fitted a good quality replacement part. The last thing a garage wants is the new part to fail relatively soon after it is fitted, if this happens they will then have to stand the cost of replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
move-mount-miss Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 Difficult to answer without knowing all the details but some of the stuff on eBay comes in plain white boxes straight from China if you know what I mean. Plus your local garage doesn't want to wait around for a part to be delivered when they can ring local factors and have the stuff sent out on the next van. You really need to compare like for like ie brands. Hope this helps to diffuse the rant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 Also, do bear in mind that if you supply a part to a garage for them to fit, and if it fails a few weeks later, then they have no liability to you to fit a replacement part (whether you buy it from them or elsewhere) free. If you buy the part from them, then they would need to do that, AND supply a replacement part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 I was once pricing new pistons for a land rover, Pattern parts were 15 quid each, Land Rover were 60 quid each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted January 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 (edited) well, after ebay I went on the GSF website and found the exact part for £20 inc vat, the garage charged me over £40, and I know for a fact they bought it from GSF. the fuel pump on my tranny cost me £800 for a recon part via that garage, there's a motor factor offering the same thing for just under £500 Edited January 11, 2015 by Paddy Galore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 Its business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dignity Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 I think they may be taking the urine mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted January 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 Its business. i'll have to remember that next time I supply and fit a kitchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy bingo Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 also don't forget the labour charge if it takes 1 hour to fit you will be charges 3 hours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 (edited) I was once pricing new pistons for a land rover, Pattern parts were 15 quid each, Land Rover were 60 quid each. eventually i will get around and do a total engine re-build on my turbo-desil..(the engine everyone hates 'cept me !).......i bought everything i need pistons shells valves guides...springs ..a total list including rebuild kit for vacumn pump.blah blah blah....from JSF....did a deal ...£600.00....most of the parts were made by companies that supplied landrover...but without the green oval.... the Landrover price.....to supply only was £2500.00............. in some cases the "landrover" price was 6 times as much.....cause it had the green oval on it Edited January 11, 2015 by ditchman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 You cant dissect mark up without looking at overhead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntsman Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 At the end of the day ask yourself one question. Would you use them again ? :no: Look around and seek a better quote and let them know who and why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 (edited) Just as an example, My boss buys Ford parts via the local Ford dealers, He gets on average 25% off of the manufacturers RRP, He then typically bills those parts out @ typically plus 30 - 40% If i buy my Ford parts from same dealer, paying cash but delivered at work, I only get 10-15% discount. When i had my T5, A new dual mass Flywheel from local VW Dealership was £1000, I bought the same item for just over £400 from a local parts supplier. Both items manufactured by a company called LUK, only difference...one box had VW all over it. There are some shockingly poor pattern parts out there for sale on auction sites. Edited January 11, 2015 by TaxiDriver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted January 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 You cant dissect mark up without looking at overhead. their overheads are in their hourly rate, currently nigh on £70 ph, the sensor cost me a few pence short of £100 to fix and 2 visits to the garage as they had the motor all bloody day just for a code read, bear in mind this was a pre booked appointment, by the time they'd done the code read it was too late to get the part delivered, so it had to wait, then it was the wrong part, so it had to wait again, then they left the cooling system half empty, for me to sort out when I found out. the fuel pump on my tranny? they left an inspection plate loose on the timing chain cover, this is an oil bearing casing, there was a trail of oil from poringland to marsham lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 Garages will always mark up the parts they supply. If you checked to see that the sensor was £20 on GSF's website, you can guarantee the garage didn't pay that much. Everybody hates people who stick the arm in, but at least you'll know not to use them again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 their overheads are in their hourly rate, currently nigh on £70 ph, the sensor cost me a few pence short of £100 to fix and 2 visits to the garage as they had the motor all bloody day just for a code read, bear in mind this was a pre booked appointment, by the time they'd done the code read it was too late to get the part delivered, so it had to wait, then it was the wrong part, so it had to wait again, then they left the cooling system half empty, for me to sort out when I found out. the fuel pump on my tranny? they left an inspection plate loose on the timing chain cover, this is an oil bearing casing, there was a trail of oil from poringland to marsham lol! Think you had better find a new garage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
move-mount-miss Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 If you pm I might be able to recommend a garage to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted January 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 If you pm I might be able to recommend a garage to you. I know of a couple in Norwich that came recommended, my local used to be good, but since a change of ownership they've slowly slid down to the depths of teeth sucking spanner monkey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 I would have thought that your local garage will get there parts mostly from one or two local parts suppliers they would not have the time to spend looking on the on the net for the cheapest bits then you have got the problem of delivery its much better for them if they can get the part and bung it on and there job is done. if the price that they are quoting for a part you could say that you will get it for them to put on I have done that in the past but you have to worry that they part may not fit and it can end up costing you more than going with the factory part been there done it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del T Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 i'll have to remember that next time I supply and fit a kitchen It is a business at the end of the day that needs to make money to survive. Busy businesses don't have time to sit searching the net for the cheapest bits, then wait for them to arrive (whilst the customer complains on what's taking so long). Plus when they do arrive they are sub standard quality and fail in a short space of time. You should supply the parts yourself if you don't want them to make money on the parts used. Do you get your kitchens from ebay? Or are they from a local joinery /diy store near to you? Do you price up your kitchens based on the eBay prices? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted January 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 I would have thought that your local garage will get there parts mostly from one or two local parts suppliers they would not have the time to spend looking on the on the net for the cheapest bits then you have got the problem of delivery its much better for them if they can get the part and bung it on and there job is done. if the price that they are quoting for a part you could say that you will get it for them to put on I have done that in the past but you have to worry that they part may not fit and it can end up costing you more than going with the factory part been there done it. yes they get them from the local motor factors, just like me, those prices I mentioned earlier in the thread were from those same suppliers the garage uses, GSF, TPS, and Delmonte. It is a business at the end of the day that needs to make money to survive. Busy businesses don't have time to sit searching the net for the cheapest bits, then wait for them to arrive (whilst the customer complains on what's taking so long). Plus when they do arrive they are sub standard quality and fail in a short space of time. You should supply the parts yourself if you don't want them to make money on the parts used. Do you get your kitchens from ebay? Or are they from a local joinery /diy store near to you? Do you price up your kitchens based on the eBay prices? I fully understand that they need to make money, that's why they charge nigh on £70 an hour. I just didn't realise it was the normal procedure for garages to make such a huge profit from parts, over 100% profit? that's taking the piddle surely? I make kitchens and joinery from scratch, I wouldn't dream of charging my clients double the retail price on materials, especially after getting a trade discount at the merchants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 yes they get them from the local motor factors, just like me, those prices I mentioned earlier in the thread were from those same suppliers the garage uses, GSF, TPS, and Delmonte. I fully understand that they need to make money, that's why they charge nigh on £70 an hour. I just didn't realise it was the normal procedure for garages to make such a huge profit from parts, over 100% profit? that's taking the piddle surely? I make kitchens and joinery from scratch, I wouldn't dream of charging my clients double the retail price on materials, especially after getting a trade discount at the merchants. If they are doing that I would not want to use them again so you are paying for the parts plus there profit on the parts then you have to pay for the parts to be fitted if that was nor enough the will bang on 20% vat on your bill nice work if you can get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil82 Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 yep, garages are a total rip off, after all, the work shop has to make enough money to cover reception staff, stores staff, sales rarely generate that much (unless its used car sales, the mark up on new would surprise most of you irrespective of ticket price, and none of you are prepared to pay that) most garages are large in area so rates are extortionate, energy costs (mechanics are sensitive types so need heated workshops and luxury tea breaks) are high, then if its a dealer take into account the fees the makers charge for the privilege of selling their products, training costs, environmental charges (no longer allowed to tip waste oil down the drain), yep, garages are a bunch of tossers (and all this does not take into account tooling costs as most of the tools are owned and paid for by the blokes who use them and, unlike a self employed bricky or chippy can`t even claim the vat back), ******* the lot of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted January 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) yep, garages are a total rip off, after all, the work shop has to make enough money to cover reception staff, stores staff, sales rarely generate that much (unless its used car sales, the mark up on new would surprise most of you irrespective of ticket price, and none of you are prepared to pay that) most garages are large in area so rates are extortionate, energy costs (mechanics are sensitive types so need heated workshops and luxury tea breaks) are high, then if its a dealer take into account the fees the makers charge for the privilege of selling their products, training costs, environmental charges (no longer allowed to tip waste oil down the drain), yep, garages are a bunch of tossers (and all this does not take into account tooling costs as most of the tools are owned and paid for by the blokes who use them and, unlike a self employed bricky or chippy can`t even claim the vat back), ******* the lot of them Pmpl Edited January 13, 2015 by Paddy Galore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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