four bore Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 HI WENT OUT FOR A GOOSE, WITH MY TUBELOCK AND MANAGED TO GET MYSELF A NICE CANADA GOOSE ( IT WEIGHED IN AT JUST ABOVE 15 LBS BIGGEST I HAVE HAD FOR A WHILE ). SADLY NO DUCKS WERE SEEN ON THIS FLIGHT. HAD A FEW GEESE AND DUCKS THIS SEASON WITH IT UP TO NOW. FOUR BORE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 Excellent, that's quite a gun. I imagine that was a very rewarding day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7daysinaweek Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 well done 4 bore, looks like a lovely gun and well done on the goose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 Well done , nice to see some old fowling pieces still getting some use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 good stuff, filling that with bismuth is going to cost a bit but worth it in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 Hi Well done a gun to slay a goose 😋 Good to see it used 😋 All the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 The gun is far better looking than the goose four bore, not my favourite goose but I could look at that gun all night long and like some of the above posts said , how nice to see it still doing the business in 2016 , possibly over 100yrs since it was made . THANKS for sharing four bore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 good to see it getting used, to many are not. it makes a shot far more to remember than another dead goose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dignity Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 I bet the goose was honoured to be shot by such a fine looking fowling piece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 I bet the goose was honoured to be shot by such a fine looking fowling piece I think it would have been more ****** off than honoured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dignity Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 I think it would have been more ****** off than honoured lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 I think it would have been more ****** off than honoured Unless the goose shouted 'pull'. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Where these days do you get the ignition tubes from? There was a thread the other day about a tube lock started by Feltwad. If you make your own ign tubes what do you use and how do you put the igniter material into the tubes (Tricky explosive stuff) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four bore Posted January 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 YES ITS GREAT TO USE AND DOES THE JOB WELL, AND KEEPING THE VINTAGE WEAPONS GOING AND YOU DO REMEMBER THE THE FLIGHTS AND SHOTS YOU HAVE. THE LOAD I USE 120 GRAINS OF MEDIUM BLACK POWDER [ 4 DRAMS ] AND ONE AND A HALF OUNCES OF 4 MM TIN AT SENSIBLE RANGES, THE IGNITION TUBE THAT I USE ARE BRASS OR COPPER 3 / 32 ND TUBE, YES THE TRICKY BIT IS PUTTING THE FULMINATE IN THEM,THIS IS VERY TRICKY AND YOU HAVE TO TAKE YOUR TIME, I HAVE DONE QUITE A LOT AND HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL THE IGNITION IS VERY QUICK AND RELIABLE.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 YES ITS GREAT TO USE AND DOES THE JOB WELL, AND KEEPING THE VINTAGE WEAPONS GOING AND YOU DO REMEMBER THE THE FLIGHTS AND SHOTS YOU HAVE. THE LOAD I USE 120 GRAINS OF MEDIUM BLACK POWDER [ 4 DRAMS ] AND ONE AND A HALF OUNCES OF 4 MM TIN AT SENSIBLE RANGES, THE IGNITION TUBE THAT I USE ARE BRASS OR COPPER 3 / 32 ND TUBE, YES THE TRICKY BIT IS PUTTING THE FULMINATE IN THEM,THIS IS VERY TRICKY AND YOU HAVE TO TAKE YOUR TIME, I HAVE DONE QUITE A LOT AND HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL THE IGNITION IS VERY QUICK AND RELIABLE.... So where do you get the fulminate from? What is the source of the fulminate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four bore Posted January 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 WHAT I DO FOR THE TUBES IS GET PERCUSSION CAPS AND WET THEM, AND PICK OUT THE FULMINATE OUT CAREFULLY, ITS LIKE A DOUGHY PASTE AND PUT IT IN THE TUBES CAREFULLY, THEN LET IT DRY. THIS METHOD WORKS GREAT FOR ME, OTHERS MIGHT USE ANOTHER WAY........? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 YES ITS GREAT TO USE AND DOES THE JOB WELL, AND KEEPING THE VINTAGE WEAPONS GOING AND YOU DO REMEMBER THE THE FLIGHTS AND SHOTS YOU HAVE. THE LOAD I USE 120 GRAINS OF MEDIUM BLACK POWDER [ 4 DRAMS ] AND ONE AND A HALF OUNCES OF 4 MM TIN AT SENSIBLE RANGES, THE IGNITION TUBE THAT I USE ARE BRASS OR COPPER 3 / 32 ND TUBE, YES THE TRICKY BIT IS PUTTING THE FULMINATE IN THEM,THIS IS VERY TRICKY AND YOU HAVE TO TAKE YOUR TIME, I HAVE DONE QUITE A LOT AND HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL THE IGNITION IS VERY QUICK AND RELIABLE.... Nice looking gun who is the maker when mine was in use I prefered copper tube aneled for the tubes found brass too brittle and split whe n fired making them dificult to extract Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Nice looking gun who is the maker when mine was in use I prefered copper tube aneled for the tubes found brass too brittle and split whe n fired making them dificult to extract Feltwad So, what method did you use and where/ how did you source the fulminate that you used to load the tubes with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 (edited) So, what method did you use and where/ how did you source the fulminate that you used to load the tubes with? Has I said the tubes came with the gun and were made by the person from whom I bought it. He gave me two lots made from brass and copper tube which he anealed before filling. The fultimate he extracted from top hat caps which he said was dangerous and he worked under a glass sheet Feltwad Edited January 15, 2016 by Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 WHAT I DO FOR THE TUBES IS GET PERCUSSION CAPS AND WET THEM, AND PICK OUT THE FULMINATE OUT CAREFULLY, ITS LIKE A DOUGHY PASTE AND PUT IT IN THE TUBES CAREFULLY, THEN LET IT DRY. THIS METHOD WORKS GREAT FOR ME, OTHERS MIGHT USE ANOTHER WAY........? Has I said the tubes came with the gun and were made by the person from whom I bought it. He gave me two lots made from brass and copper tube which he anealed before filling. The fultimate he extracted from top hat caps which he said was dangerous and he worked under a glass sheet Feltwad It's interesting that there is a similar method from both sources. I find the point about wetting the material to handle it interesting. I wonder if the imprecise filling of the tubes gave rise to differing ignition and differing individual shots. Did the tubes reliably ignite every time or was it a bit hit and miss. Is there a noticeable difference between shots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 It's interesting that there is a similar method from both sources. I find the point about wetting the material to handle it interesting. I wonder if the imprecise filling of the tubes gave rise to differing ignition and differing individual shots. Did the tubes reliably ignite every time or was it a bit hit and miss. Is there a noticeable difference between shots There was no difference in ignition the tube was just has fast has a percussion cap .The tubes were just has reliable with few misfires I found that on some tubes after fired would wedge solid in the touchhole this i righted by greasing the wall of the tube before entering it into the touch hole Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 (edited) There was no difference in ignition the tube was just has fast has a percussion cap .The tubes were just has reliable with few misfires I found that on some tubes after fired would wedge solid in the touchhole this i righted by greasing the wall of the tube before entering it into the touch hole Feltwad I would think that the tubes jamming in the touch hole was as a result of the reverse pressure of the main charge sort of fire forming the tube into the wall of the touch hole, similar to how a rifle cartridge gets fire formed by the pressure of the cartridge going off. In this instance the pressure of the burn will try to get out of anywhere that it can, but the tube can't be blasted out of the touch hole because the hammer has pinched the tube and the outer shroud of the hammer is blanking the tubes retreat. If the shroud wasn't there the tube could be blasted out the side door like a bullet. It wouldn't be good if you were standing to the side. Shot in the head by your mates gun. I have been peppered by black powder being blasted out of the pan and touch hole of a flint lock. the powder grains stung my cheek a bit. lucky no to get it in the eye. Edited January 15, 2016 by fortune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four bore Posted January 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 HI THE MAKER IS GEORGE FULLER AND ITS A 6 BORE, THE TUBES I USE ARE BRASS AND COPPER THEY BOTH WORK WELL FOR ME. THE IGNITION IS JUST AS QUICK USEING EITHER TUBE, IN MY OPINION THE IGNITION IS AS QUICK AS A PERCUSSION GUN OR IF ANY THING A FRACTION FASTER, AND I HAVE NOT YET HAD ANY IGNITION TROUBLE YET... .....! I HAVE USED IT QUITE A LOT THIS SEASON. I HAVE NEVER HAD THE TUBES JAM IN THE TOUCH HOLE. THE REMOVAL OF THE SPENT TUBES CAN BE DIFFICULT IF YOUR HANDS ARE COLD, SO A LITTLE PAIR OF LONG NOSE PLIARS ARE IDEAL FOR THIS JOB. ATB FOUR BORE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaunda Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Found an old reference to the ' tubes ' being made from the heavy duty tinfoil that you used to get as liners in tea chests with the ' red ' ends of matches carefully removed from the matchsticks and ground down to a fine powder.After firing what remained was simply flicked aside.Sounds a bit Heath-Robinsonish but obviously has worked,for some. FeltWad may have heard of this from Muzzle Loading forums elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Found an old reference to the ' tubes ' being made from the heavy duty tinfoil that you used to get as liners in tea chests with the ' red ' ends of matches carefully removed from the matchsticks and ground down to a fine powder.After firing what remained was simply flicked aside.Sounds a bit Heath-Robinsonish but obviously has worked,for some. FeltWad may have heard of this from Muzzle Loading forums elsewhere. Have heard of a muzzle loader using the match heads a couple of years ago, I think it would work but I have never tried it . Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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