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The remain harridans were constantly aggressive in attacking the Brexit side individuals personally, rudely interrupting them and trying to shout them down, I thought the brexit side remained cool and to the point and tried to answer the questions without insulting the opposition....well done to them!

Yep.. typical of the remain mob, watched 'Question Time' last night and Eddie Izzard made himself look a real knob, visually and verbally.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3634814/Shut-Ranting-Eddie-Izzard-slapped-Question-Time-audience-accuses-Nigel-Farage-betraying-immigrant-roots-call-Brexit.html

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Not sure wot the polls are saying or how close it is further down south but the leave will have to be well ahead in polls to stand a chance, the simple fact is when folk get in the voting booth fear WILL get the better of them and they will vote remain as life is not too bad as it is. More of the undecied's will vote remain as it is the easy option.

 

 

That is probably true to an extent.

The issue is, has that fear been put into them by the remain camp,and is it justified?

The whole remain argument started off by describing what 'could ' happen,and the 'probable ' effects of brexit.

A lot of undecided folk see the those threats as 'will happen' and 'almost definitely'

The government, who are made up of both sides of the argument ,should never have shown bias towards remain,this is fundamentally wrong and undemocratic.

Cam keeps carping on about the 'will of the British public' when he is using all means possible to keep us in.

His OPINION is his alone, yes he is the Prime Minister ,but to make it seem that the governments opinion as a whole are for remain ,and that is the sensible vote,is very misleading.

I dont like the way these debates are being staged, the questions are pretty tame, and it seems like the recipients have had fore warning of there content.

Maybe as we get closer,the opportunity will arise for them to question each other on the thorny issues.

 

The Scotland issue I see like this.

If Brexit causes the need/want for another Scots independence vote,let them have it, seems pretty fair to me.

I had a conversation with a Welshman the other day around the same issue.

He protested that the 'English ' government were 'wrecking' his country .

So I said if you want independence ,lobby your MPs ,your assembly and your fellow countrymen and women.

Get your referendum and vote out, like Scotland...didnt.

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No its not, Scotland get a lot of subsidies from the EU. If we left the EU they would definitely be a nett looser financially and they couldn't afford to take the hit.

 

Scotland needs the EU's money, simple as that really. Like a lot of other countries come to think of it, is that a good enough reason to want to stay?

Well... Wales are in the same position as Scotland...But most of the people I speak to are voting out...you can see that by the huge support Ukip got..and even large numbers of Labour supporters are voting to leave the EU...Look at the steel Industry..UK government cannot reduce energy tariffs to make us more competitive because of the EU rules!.. And we are going to lose 1000s of jobs down here because of that!

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I'm not sure scotland is really that bothered about the whole euro debate to be honest, most of the euro immigrants have fitted in not too bad and we don't have the massive numbers that are elsewhere. Doubt turnout will be anywere near wot it was for independence referendum.

 

As for a 2nd scottish vote, god knows, she/snp may be many things but are not daft. If brexit happens would be a good excuse BUT with oil the way it is and the list of things beginning to go wrong at holyrood i doubt they'd be brave enough to have it.

Don't think most scots are that bothered about EU that it would change their mind from a No to Yes at the last referndum just to stay in EU (if they're are they need there heads examined)

 

When u look wot happened in canada/qubuec, think 1st 2 independance votes were relatiely tight an last one it fell down to 30 odd%.

For such big life changing permanent decisions i think u really need atleast 60-70% of population voting for it.

know with the scottish 1 i would of felt sorry for the No's if it was 51/49 for Yes as so much changes and still a lot of oppisation to it

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Just watching it now. The Remain side`s argument is starting to look like a scene from MacBeth

 

"Hubble, bubble, toil and trouble".

 

Ha! I made the missus (who is not interested in politics in any way) watch it,just so she could see Sturgeon in action.

Conclusion- "Shes absolutely horrible !" :lol:

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The decision to extend the voter registration by 24 hours, because of 'unprecedented demand' or something similar on the online system, just shows the desperation of the remain camp imho. They are obviously hoping that the people who couldn't be bothered registering until the last second, despite pleas and warnings for the past month or more, will vote to remain. :rolleyes:

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Surely Scotland would not even consider seperating from the rest of us until the price of oil returns to the previous crazy heights!

 

 

What position would scotland be in now if they had narrowly voted to annex themselves from the UK just before the oil price collapsed...?

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Yep.. typical of the remain mob, watched 'Question Time' last night and Eddie Izzard made himself look a real knob, visually and verbally.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3634814/Shut-Ranting-Eddie-Izzard-slapped-Question-Time-audience-accuses-Nigel-Farage-betraying-immigrant-roots-call-Brexit.html

I watched QT,last night and have to agree with you.what a total numpty izzard is. Edited by besty57
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