Farrage Resigns (again)

[Jaymo]

So Gordon - you don't believe in the Official ONS figures then?

Must be al of those conspiracy theories have gotten to you, or maybe you just don't want to believe to suit your way of thinking???

Possibly slightly narrow minded.

 

HMRC don't carry out audits/ investigations then- now who is out of touch with reality?

 

As for getting out more your probably right- this week I have probably met more people and travelled more than you have in the past ten years ( of course I could be wrong, you might take your slippers off and venture outside once in a while)

To all the others- sorry, I couldn't resist the above comment and feel free to give me penalty points

[Rewulf]

ReWulf, don't get me wrong- I do understand what your saying but those who 'sneak' in aren't/ shouldn't be able to receive any assistance as they are considered 'illegal' and so are not even included into the official figures ( blame your south coast fisherman for bringing them in - that's if I'm allowed to generalise as other here do?)

The paying of taxes by Poles etc working in the UK- last time I check if you take the NHS an an employer for example did not allow their employees to go onto HMRC NT ( no tax at source) pay!

The other who as you put 'only work in car washes' and pocket all their money ... Well some do most likely, same as maybe your window cleaner or your British builder

Don't tell me you have never 'paid cash' or been offered it.

( was going to liken saying no to denying you never do something in the privacy of you own home) .

 

HMRC for all their problems can and do carry out Audits on these type of Carwas businesses.

 

Birth rates are really- if your worried about lack of access to schools and hospitals etc- why not start the 'stop having babies campaign' too as this is a far far higher proportion of the annual increase. But like you said- it's ok for 'indigenous ' people to do so........

 

You just generalised virtually everything I said.

I never said they ALL worked in car washes (Thats usually the Albanians anyway)

If you think HMRC audit a cash only car wash,garage,building firm or window cleaner of ANY nationality ,you are seriously deluded.

Of course Ive paid cash for services and done services for cash,is that illegal ?

Its when you dont declare it , is when you have done wrong surely?

Who suggested not having babies ? You seem to have plucked that one out of the air.

I said services were buckling under the pressure of 350k of migrants every year,you said 'meh'

Do you not like the word 'indigenous' is it bordering on racism ?

Edited July 7, 2016 by Rewulf

[Jaymo]

I was merely trying to point out that a buckling system is buckling either way...

 

Non declaration of cash in hand is of course illegal, once again I was trying to balance it by saying not all from any 'background' pay their dues.

 

 

Please feel free to clarify on the following number if HMRC to 'pay visits' to cash only operators 0870 280 2566

[Rewulf]

I was merely trying to point out that a buckling system is buckling either way...

 

 

 

So several hundred thousand more wont make a difference ?

[Vince Green]

I've reported tax dodgers and benefit fraud in the past but AFAIK nothing was done about them

 

To be honest, a big slice of the resentment about immigration etc is down to failures in our establishment to get to grips with the issues.

[rodp]

One thing worth bearing in mind is it doesn't just stop with the immigrants coming in. An article in the Telegraph that's worth taking in to consideration.

 

Census figures reveal a ‘startling’ shift in Britain’s demographic trend with almost a tenth of babies and toddlers born in England and Wales being Muslim.

The percentage of Muslims among the under-fives is almost twice as high as in the general population. Less than one in 200 over 85s are Muslims – an indication of the extent to which birth rate is changing the UK’s religious demographic.

 

This mentions no race or country of origin, just religion. Is this what's wanted in a Christian country?

[Jaymo]

So several hundred thousand more wont make a difference ?

 

Nope, trying to ask why one particular part of society should be singled out above others.

[rodp]

I was merely trying to point out that a buckling system is buckling either way...

 

Non declaration of cash in hand is of course illegal, once again I was trying to balance it by saying not all from any 'background' pay their dues.

 

 

Please feel free to clarify on the following number if HMRC to 'pay visits' to cash only operators 0870 280 2566

The general consensus around here is that an investigation costs app £10k, and if they think a case isn't going to generate at least that amount they ignore it.

[Jaymo]

Is the UK only a Christian country, has only ever been exclusively Christian.

 

Should religion even be a deciding factor? Hundreds of thousand Muslims have been settled in the UK for years and I never used to hear such divisive comments prior to this.

 

So what was Brexit really about? Shapes of Bananas from Brussels or Religion and Country of Origin?

I thought it was about the EU, yet I have had to sit and defend myself only about these two issues--- not a single point of how maybe EU laws may or may not have hampered you. The only EU policy seems to be immigration!!!!!!

 

Check out you post counts to confirm........

[Rewulf]

Nope, trying to ask why one particular part of society should be singled out above others.

 

Sorry,so your saying it wont make a difference,or did you just dodge the question ?

 

Actually dont answer that (you probably wont anyway ) but I can see your subtle plan there.

Flood the country will migrants,break all the services,give rise to right wing nationalist sentiment,riots on streets and country turned into economic basket case.....migrants go home,is that what you meant ?

[Jaymo]

Gosh,,, if that's the thinking I better put in a bid for that Anderson shelter and make sure my subscription to Private Eye is up to date

[rodp]

Is the UK only a Christian country, has only ever been exclusively Christian.

 

Should religion even be a deciding factor? Hundreds of thousand Muslims have been settled in the UK for years and I never used to hear such divisive comments prior to this.

 

So what was Brexit really about? Shapes of Bananas from Brussels or Religion and Country of Origin?

I thought it was about the EU, yet I have had to sit and defend myself only about these two issues--- not a single point of how maybe EU laws may or may not have hampered you. The only EU policy seems to be immigration!!!!!!

 

Check out you post counts to confirm........

Unfortunately I have to live amongst it all, therefore it has a direct influence on the lives of my family and I. It also has a direct, and negative, influence on the lives of thousands of other folk. I care about my family and all the others in the country. Unlike some on here who just want to look good but don't have to put up with any negative results from immigration, and therefore really don't have a clue about the real life situation. They try and talk a good argument but in reality live in airy fairy land away from it all.

 

The pic below shows a high St app a 15 minute walk from me, last time we counted when driving through there were 5 shops run by, let's say white English for the sake of argument. This was a thriving local shopping centre not too long ago, not any more, it's predominately Asian now.

Is this what we want our children to grow up to ? Immigration needs to stop NOW, while we still have a chance of integration.

[Gordon R]

Jaymo - any chance of the total population figure?

 

The ONS figures are garbage. If you had half a brain you would realise that. The Government doesn't know how many illegals are here, so the figures aren't worth a bean. Amateurs like you spout nonsense about immigration, without once knowing what you are talking about.

 

As for your view of HMRC. You are wrong full stop - absolutely clueless. You have no idea how they work - I do.

[Jaymo]

Gordon

 

I bow to the expert with knowledge in every walk of society.

I hope one day that my children are as knowledgable and distrust all information given to them by National bodies

 

Illegals will always be illegals , they are and never have been part of my equation, thinking or rationing.

 

With this, I bow out of your wonderful thread and just to put it back on track from the OP original topic--- so, what's next for the Brexit boys of Farage, Johnson and Gove?

 

The end.....besides, footballs on and my two favorite EU nations are playing :-)

[955i]

Unfortunately I have to live amongst it all, therefore it has a direct influence on the lives of my family and I. It also has a direct, and negative, influence on the lives of thousands of other folk. I care about my family and all the others in the country. Unlike some on here who just want to look good but don't have to put up with any negative results from immigration, and therefore really don't have a clue about the real life situation. They try and talk a good argument but in reality live in airy fairy land away from it all.

 

The pic below shows a high St app a 15 minute walk from me, last time we counted when driving through there were 5 shops run by, let's say white English for the sake of argument. This was a thriving local shopping centre not too long ago, not any more, it's predominately Asian now.

Is this what we want our children to grow up to ? Immigration needs to stop NOW, while we still have a chance of integration.

You sir are a racist

 

It is still a thriving shopping centre, just shops owned by people you don't like.

 

If the community didn't want them the shops wouldn't exist anymore.

 

Simple

Edited July 7, 2016 by 955i

[Yellow Bear]

You sir are a racist

 

It is still a thriving shopping centre, just shops owned by people you don't like.

 

If the community didn't want them the shops wouldn't exist anymore.

 

Simple

Here speaks a man that has not encountered the effect of this - the standard PC view that only white English people are racist!!

Edited July 7, 2016 by Yellow Bear

[SNS]

 

 

As for your view of HMRC. You are wrong full stop - absolutely clueless. You have no idea how they work - I do.

 

Apologies for derailing the original topic but I have a genuine interest in this and the earlier post about HMRC not auditing cash businesses- do you work for HMRC ?

[rodp]

You sir are a racist

 

It is still a thriving shopping centre, just shops owned by people you don't like.

 

If the community didn't want them the shops wouldn't exist anymore.

 

Simple

Go tell that to Harri, Ravi, Sog, all close friends. The names may give you a clue ,there again, in your case I'll make an exception

 

For the hard of thinking let me explain. Yes the community wants them, that is, the community that's there now. How about the displaced community, don't they count? If you're telling me it's fine to displace a community and replace with one of a different race then who's the racist now?

 

You Sir are not only a racist but also a disgrace to your country

[Vince Green]

It is still a thriving shopping centre, just shops owned by people you don't like.

 

Simple

The word 'thriving' rather depends on how many kebabs and pizzas you can eat or how many poundshops or Betfreds you frequent on a regular basis. The downturn in local high streets is more complicated than simply who owns them.

[955i]

Here speaks a man that has not encountered the effect of this - the standard PC view that only white English people are racist!!

No, I grew up in Wolverhampton. Multiculturist through and through with all classes, cultures and creeds present from when I was a kid.....including MUSLIMS

 

There were issues, but mostly among the Indian communities over class, everyone else got on no problem.

You Sir are not only a racist but also a disgrace to your country

Oh, your made up foreign friends that you will use to try and prove a weak point.

 

How am I a disgrace?

 

Please explain further.

 

Have you noticed you can't use the Ninja smiley on here now in case it causes offence?

Edited July 7, 2016 by 955i

[Gordon R]

Apologies for derailing the original topic but I have a genuine interest in this and the earlier post about HMRC not auditing cash businesses- do you work for HMRC ?

 

 

I do not work for HMRC, but have a better knowledge of the fraud side of HMRC than the person who rather foolishly cited them.

 

I bow to the expert with knowledge in every walk of society.

I hope one day that my children are as knowledgable and distrust all information given to them by National bodies

 

 

I do hope that your children grow up to be brighter than you. They might even inherit your evasiveness and talent for spelling.

Edited July 7, 2016 by Gordon R

[oowee]

 

As for your view of HMRC. You are wrong full stop - absolutely clueless. You have no idea how they work - I do.

 

Apologies for derailing the original topic but I have a genuine interest in this and the earlier post about HMRC not auditing cash businesses- do you work for HMRC ?

Please enlighten us Gordon R I also have a genuine interest to learn more on this.

It worked, the ninja smiley thing

[Gordon R]

oowee - It would take too long to fully explain and to be honest, I don't have the inclination. I know what I know and that is sufficient for me.

 

I don't comprehend how HMRC got dragged into a debate about Nigel Farage resigning. It just seems that the "Remain" supporters will throw everything up to and including, religion, race and the kitchen sink to further their lost cause.

[pinfireman]

 

You just generalised virtually everything I said.

I never said they ALL worked in car washes (Thats usually the Albanians anyway)

If you think HMRC audit a cash only car wash,garage,building firm or window cleaner of ANY nationality ,you are seriously deluded.

Of course Ive paid cash for services and done services for cash,is that illegal ?

Its when you dont declare it , is when you have done wrong surely?

Who suggested not having babies ? You seem to have plucked that one out of the air.

I said services were buckling under the pressure of 350k of migrants every year,you said 'meh'

Do you not like the word 'indigenous' is it bordering on racism ?

Correct! Jaymo just generalises.....HMRC do carry out investigations, but only where they think it,s going to be financially effective for them, which is why they leave the car wash, pizza delivery, casual worker brigade alone. A friend is a retired tax inspector, who spent the last 10 years working as a financial consultant, explaining to clients how to avoid (NOT how to evade) paying tax! All legal. He says that the "black" economy (and no, jaymo, that is NOT a racist remark!) has trebled since 1997...strange, that,s when Blair opened the doors to Uncle Tom Cobley et al......

[rodp]

No, I grew up in Wolverhampton. Multiculturist through and through with all classes, cultures and creeds present from when I was a kid.....including MUSLIMS And how long ago was that? And which part of Wolvo, not heath town I'll venture?

 

There were issues, but mostly among the Indian communities over class, everyone else got on no problem. And yet now Indians rarely cause any trouble, they've integrated nicely. Harri and Ravi are Indian, Sog comes from some mountain area near Pakistan / Indian border, he has told me where but it just goes over my head (some odd name)

Oh, your made up foreign friends that you will use to try and prove a weak point. Ha ha, really ? You forget I need to prove nothing to you

 

How am I a disgrace?

 

Please explain further.

 

Have you noticed you can't use the Ninja smiley on here now in case it causes offence? No, don't think I've ever used it anyway.