JDog Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 What is the maximum number of cartridges allowed in a semi auto in this country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenlivet Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 2 in the magazine and one up the spout for section 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted August 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 2 in the magazine and one up the spout for section 2. Thank you, and what would one need to have to be able legally to have five cartridges in the gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 You can buy a UK spec Saiga-12 with a 20 round drum magazine. The only shotgun I`ve seen that has a bigger mag than that is the Fostech Origin 12 with a 30 round drum but I don`t know if they`re available over here. You could certainly scare some pigeons with one of these. For standard tube mags you can certainly buy a 9 or 10+1 shotgun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 I have a 5 shot on section 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 Thank you, and what would one need to have to be able legally to have five cartridges in the gun? Section 1 shotgun so you`d need to have it on a firearms certificate. Pest control is an acceptable reason to have one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 Thank you, and what would one need to have to be able legally to have five cartridges in the gun? Section 1 shotgun so you`d need to have it on a firearms certificate. Pest control is an acceptable reason to have one. And remember that it is illegal to use a S1 shotgun to shoot any bird. However, the GL permits their use on certain birds, ie. the ones listed on the GL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 As above not dificult to justify ownership, coming from a time of no restriction i was gutted when they restricted my semi autos back then, but now i realise i dont need it it just takes longer to load and unload more shells and if you have a speed load type ramp on your gun and you only load two in the mag and dont fire the third you can get off a rate of fire i genuinely feel would be faster than feeding 10 up the tube then firing them. Not bsaying some dont have a need for them but i dont see me needing it i have firearms so i could but thats just my view others may feel they need the increased capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted August 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 Well it certainly would not be for me to load five cartridges into my gun. Three is more than I am used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 Well it certainly would not be for me to load five cartridges into my gun. Three is more than I am used to. How come your thinking of moving to a semi auto jdog ?? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted August 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 How come your thinking of moving to a semi auto jdog ?? . Long story but I already have due to a neck problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 Section 1 shotgun so you`d need to have it on a firearms certificate. Pest control is an acceptable reason to have one. To get my Section 1 shotgun, I was advised by my FEO that the reason I want one is for crop protection, which I did, and had no problems getting one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 Long story but I already have due to a neck problem. Ideal then , I can still remember the look on your face when I brought my synthetic auto for a day with you rather than traditional o/u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 When I first applied for mine many years ago I put down as my good reason 'pest control' and namely shooting bolting rabbits, which I used to do a heck of a lot of back then. It was refused. I called them up and my FEO called round and told me that the shooting of ground game ( namely rabbits hares etc) wasn't supposed to be done with a shotgun. This was news to me, but anyhow, he then told me to put down as my good reason ' the terms and conditions of the wildlife and countryside act 1987' ( ? ) I can't recall the exact year. I did as he advised and it was granted. When I applied for a second S1 shotgun I quoted the same act and was granted again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted August 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 Ideal then , I can still remember the look on your face when I brought my synthetic auto for a day with you rather than traditional o/u We all have to come down to earth sometime. You haven't posted for a while. Where have you been? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlerob Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 all section 2 semi auto are mostly one in chamber two in the internal magazine /tube. but illegal they can be used as a 4 shot by ghost loading them as seen on some youtube videos but get catched and bye bye to owning a SGC again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 The only thing my semi auto did for me this afternoon was let me fire more cartridges at birds I'd missed. I shot so badly I actually missed a sitting, yes sitting, rabbit. I went home and had a warm pigeon and beetroot salad washed down with copious amounts of alcohol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 We all have to come down to earth sometime. You haven't posted for a while. Where have you been? . You'll become to love it Have mine for a few weeks try it out . I don't post anymore JD , but also been very ill, but on the mend slowly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 It must not be forgotten that prior to the "ban" all semi autos and pumps were 5 shot, there was no choice, so that's what we all used. Nothing to stop you just putting 2 in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 It must not be forgotten that prior to the "ban" all semi autos and pumps were 5 shot, there was no choice, so that's what we all used. Nothing to stop you just putting 2 in it. Exactly you could just load two in the mag just the same , i did try and did the proper thing after the 1981 wildlife and countryside act came in, i fitted the plug and left it there so although i was still anoyed i had to get them restricted after the 1988 came in, i had been shooting just three in two of my semi autos since 1981 i think it was a week or two into the wildfowling season when the 1981 came in, i know we could shoot unrestricted semis pumps etc, and cerlew etc for the first week or two of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydi73 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Section I'm afraid old chap.....However, I have heard "if you buy 2 3/4 carts, you can get 3 up the tube turning your usual 3 shot semi into 4 shot, but like I said, only what I heard as would be totally illegal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted August 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Lloydi my little mate, it is certainly not for me. I saw a recently uploaded video on this very forum and the chap was loading five cartridges into his gun. I presume that he has the requisite certificate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Section I'm afraid old chap.....However, I have heard "if you buy 2 3/4 carts, you can get 3 up the tube turning your usual 3 shot semi into 4 shot, but like I said, only what I heard as would be totally illegal ILL EAGLE indeed as is floating the fourth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 You have the A400 don't you Jdog? I was quite surprised that you can increase the number of cartridges this gun will hold simply by pulling a plastic rod out of the magazine tube!! Any other semi auto I have seen, the tube is normally crimped and you would need to by a bigger tube. Of course, this would be illegal when the gun comes under normal SGC!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 You have the A400 don't you Jdog? I was quite surprised that you can increase the number of cartridges this gun will hold simply by pulling a plastic rod out of the magazine tube!! Any other semi auto I have seen, the tube is normally crimped and you would need to by a bigger tube. Of course, this would be illegal when the gun comes under normal SGC!! After existing semi autos were converyted after the 88 act, which they alowed an extra six months leaway to get conversions done, It was on all new guns to be ristricted by the manufacturers or importers, im not sure if they had to comply fully to the descriptions on constriction as gunsmiths had to do to the existing guns needing conversion. But i do feel just leaving a plug in as a way of restriction is not quite what the law had in mind. I feel this is not very responsible or in the spirit of the law on the part of the manufacturer importer. My feelings are it coulod be technicaly verging in illegal. Its certainly an abuse, and in early restricted guns they acctualy need the restriction the stamp and the prof house certificate to be legal in full. Very suprised at the plug .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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