besty57 Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 The government’s plan to build a million new homes will require upwards of 125,000 extra operatives not to mention perhaps another 750,000 to replace retirees in the next 10 years. Currently many of these non skilled posts are filled by migrant workers and many skilled positions too from those from Eastern Europe. Yeah and do you think that will really happen,all it has done is suppress wages.great if your an employer.not so good for every one else in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 According to French news there hasn't been any riots in Paris. Just rounding up of refugees who have been camped illegally and swelled by new arrivals from Calais. They have been offered the chance to register and taken to a specially created hostel where they will receive food, shelter and medical assistance. Move along, nothing to see here.................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 Yes but the houses are only being built to accomodate the immigrants, stop the influx and we won't need to build the houses in the first place. Its not like we need any more people. There is a limit to how many car washes and pizza delivery men we can find work for?, Oh but we do need more - gazillions more apparently and its been going quite smoothly until Teresa May adopted Brexit, so maybe its now UK Vs the New World Order soon: http://www.westernspring.co.uk/the-coudenhove-kalergi-plan-the-genocide-of-the-peoples-of-europe/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanj Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 The French give them nothing in the way of help or benefits, they don't even get basic healthcare so they are not encouraged to put down roots. They can't even claim asylum if they wanted to because nobody knows where to get the forms. That's not a joke or one of those stories you hear from time to time. The Spanish do the same, no forms and the office where you get them is either closed or waiting for more to come in. Its a very effective way of dealing with something they don't really want to deal with amended that for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adge Cutler Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 Yes but the houses are only being built to accomodate the immigrants, stop the influx and we won't need to build the houses in the first place. Its not like we need any more people. There is a limit to how many car washes and pizza delivery men we can find work for?, That's not the case in fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjh Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 Migrants are not the exclusive right of those who voted for Brexit ..in fact we have them around here in Gloucester, Stroud, Cheltenham, and Cirencester...thank god we do because they keep the NHS & The Construction Industry, Public transport, and Public services like refuse Collection and residential care all running smoothly. In fact they do all the jobs the lazy aborigines wont get off their lazy ***** to do. These people are just perpetual moaners. Ok so in Cirencester the migrants own the nice restaurants and like to employ there own and also one of the local Polo grounds.. There's nothing to stop you going out to Karachi or Mogadishu if you want to and opening a fish and chip shop though. Anyway I thought Burnley was supposed to be the friendliest town in the Country. Didn't the migrants have anything to do with that then ?? couldn't agree more at last someone else on PW with a point of view that actually reflects reality and not some prejudice blinkered little Englander view Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 chrisjh - why is it that only your view (+1)reflects reality? Whilst I agree with Adge - try opening a Christian church in another country - not quite the same as opening an Indian takeaway in UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longspoon Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 couldn't agree more at last someone else on PW with a point of view that actually reflects reality and not some prejudice blinkered little Englander view Looking forward to your next uninformed troll, oops, sorry, post...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjh Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 chrisjh - why is it that only your view (+1)reflects reality? Whilst I agree with Adge - try opening a Christian church in another country - not quite the same as opening an Indian takeaway in UK. so you are suggesting that opening a Christian church in another country is impossible what about Italy or Ireland, plenty of Christian churches in India or Egypt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longspoon Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 Both you, chrisjh and Mr. Cutler inhabit a curious nether world where reality is suspended in favour of your liberalist proffered opinions that we owe something to these people....we don't !l Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 so you are suggesting that opening a Christian church in another country is impossible what about Italy or Ireland, plenty of Christian churches in India or Egypt You are being just a bit silly. Try opening one in the Middle East - where "most" of the "refugees" come from. PS I hadn't realised the "refugees" from war zones came from Egypt, Italy and Ireland. I put that down to lack of quality reporting. Where do you source your almost unique news from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 [quote name="Adge Cutler" post="3157182" timestamp="14 Anyway I thought Burnley was supposed to be the friendliest town in the Country. Didn't the migrants have anything to do with that then ?? So migrants make a town more friendly. Well fifteen years ago Boston was a sleepy quiet town.hardly any excitement. Now we have the highest population of migrants in the country.we are also according to official figures the murder capital of the UK.and surprise it's migrants killing each other.we have had some ten murders and attempted murder convictions in the last three years.so whilst you are living in your utopia created for you by these people some are living with the reality of uncontrolled movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adge Cutler Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 So migrants make a town more friendly. Well fifteen years ago Boston was a sleepy quiet town.hardly any excitement. Now we have the highest population of migrants in the country.we are also according to official figures the murder capital of the UK.and surprise it's migrants killing each other.we have had some ten murders and attempted murder convictions in the last three years.so whilst you are living in your utopia created for you by these people some are living with the reality of uncontrolled movement. That's a shame. If I had to suffer that I would probably re locate ...or migrate to another part of the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 That's a shame. If I had to suffer that I would probably re locate ...or migrate to another part of the country. Some people cant afford to move ,or dont want to. But having said that,if your life was that bad,and someone told you there was a country that you could sneak into illegally ,and once there they would give you a house,money,education,health care ect,and once established ,bring your family over,wouldnt you do it? Basically ,a life you could only dream of, now, where to find such a place..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buze Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 to be fair, there's very little mention of that stuff in the french press either. Liberation.fr is so lefty and pro-migrant that it makes the BBC looks totally impartial. Found these tho, on lemonde.fr http://www.lemonde.fr/immigration-et-diversite/video/2016/10/31/a-paris-2-000-migrants-sur-le-pave_5023247_1654200.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 Some people cant afford to move ,or dont want to. But having said that,if your life was that bad,and someone told you there was a country that you could sneak into illegally ,and once there they would give you a house,money,education,health care ect,and once established ,bring your family over,wouldnt you do it? Basically ,a life you could only dream of, now, where to find such a place..... That is the problem in a nutshell. And that is why the Australians have it so right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 to be fair, there's very little mention of that stuff in the french press either. Liberation.fr is so lefty and pro-migrant that it makes the BBC looks totally impartial. Found these tho, on lemonde.fr http://www.lemonde.fr/immigration-et-diversite/video/2016/10/31/a-paris-2-000-migrants-sur-le-pave_5023247_1654200.html That is what I posted earlier. The French are not letting migrants set up permanent camps and are rounding them up and giving them the option of registering or face deportation. There are no riots and the illegal immigrants are being taken to specially converted buildings where they will be fed and receive any medical attention necessary. The interesting part will come later when the French are left with those who won't register or who don't qualify for asylum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 But having said that,if your life was that bad,and someone told you there was a country that you could sneak into illegally ,and once there they would give you a house,money,education,health care ect,and once established ,bring your family over,wouldnt you do it? Basically ,a life you could only dream of, now, where to find such a place..... That's absolutely right, if it were you or me we would be doing the same thing. I have never blamed them for that, However, when places like France give them absolutely nothing and we give them so much the outcome is inevitable and its our fault. It may not be a popular solution but we have to stop the handouts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 The interesting part will come later when the French are left with those who won't register or who don't qualify for asylum. They will give them papers that will allow them to travel legally to the UK, just to get rid of them. Simples! problem solved Mark my words Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longspoon Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 It may not be a popular solution but we have to stop the handouts It's popular with me ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 That's absolutely right, if it were you or me we would be doing the same thing. I have never blamed them for that, However, when places like France give them absolutely nothing and we give them so much the outcome is inevitable and its our fault. It may not be a popular solution but we have to stop the handouts That is easier to say than do. Until the UK can unshackel itself from the EU laws and ECHR interference it has to treat EU migrants and illegal immigrants just the same as British people. It isn't that France give them nothing. The UK are out of step with everyone else. The National Health Service and Social security that were the envy of the world are not a millstone around the county's neck to be exploited by any chancer who want s a better life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 Perhaps the most extreme and bizarre post ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 They will give them papers that will allow them to travel legally to the UK, just to get rid of them. Simples! problem solved Mark my words Can't see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buze Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 That is what I posted earlier. The French are not letting migrants set up permanent camps and are rounding them up and giving them the option of registering or face deportation. There are no riots and the illegal immigrants are being taken to specially converted buildings where they will be fed and receive any medical attention necessary. The interesting part will come later when the French are left with those who won't register or who don't qualify for asylum. Heh well that problem has existed for *decades* in france. Illegal immigrants from africa are everywhere, and live under the radar mostly. And to be fair, most people aren't too bothered about it. There was even at least one 'amnesty' law to help legalize a bunch of them a while back. The "Sans papier" 'problem' is always on the backburner of french politics for decades. The other side of the coin is that there is also a lot of people who ressent that, as since everyone is 'entitled' to public service in france, many 'sans papier' (without a legal right of residence) live off happily on gov handouts -- a LOT better than what they had where they came from. I don't want to generalise and make a comparison that could be classed as 'rude' or 'racist' because I'm definitely not -- however it's very similar to the people vs cats situation. You have the irrationally lovers, and the irrationally against; you only hear the extremes, and rarely the more sensible middle ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 buze - you might have a point. Sadly - I see the way the people behave in the camps and attacking motorists. I think - "Would I like to see these people in this country?" My answer would be a resounding NO. Too many have no regard for law and order. How would that change if they came to the UK? Would they suddenly become law abiding? The stats for our prison population suggest not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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