ChrisPCarter Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) You might get a used Miroku MK38 Grade 5 Sporter for that price - beautiful wood, hand engraved and a fantastic all round gun if it fits you. I think they compare well with other guns in the £4K range for looks and they never go wrong. It's a competition winning gun on clays, great on pigeons and more than good enough for a posh days shooting and high pheasants if you feel the need. Mine always gets admired wherever I go and I find I take it out over some of my more expensive guns a lot of the time. On the majority of the shoots I go on it's the nicest looking gun there. Probably my best purchase and despite saying I'll sell it to fund other guns I've not been able to part with it. You'll probably find you suit Browning/Moroku or Beretta, not both. All good guns really. Edited November 25, 2016 by ChrisPCarter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilts#Dave Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) Repost Edited November 25, 2016 by Wilts#Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 You could potentially pick up a high grade Miroku, maybe an MK38 or a very nice Browning. However I`m not sure if you'd want to take a grade 5 gun out for pigeon shooting, that's up to you of course. What's the problem of taking any gun out shooting? You aren't exactly going to use it to beat the hide poles in with it. Even if it were a London best it still has to be used for the job that it was made for otherwise there is no point in it's existance. And if it has to be kept in a glass cabinet just as a museum curio and the cheapo pedretti goes out shooting it would be a very sad day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 If I were putting 1500 into an over and under I'd bide my time and get a 30" or better still 32" B325 of the highest grade I could get. The grade 5 (did they do a 6? I'm not sure) will have likely been looked after and used less. They are well made and my humble grade 1 which I've had since 1992 is testament to their reliability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) There are some grade 6 different engraving I think (gold inlays) also some special editions black ducks, heritage, etc so different engraving which I think is the difference between a 5 and 6? https://www.guntrader.uk/guns/shotguns/browning/over-under/12-gauge/b325-grade-5-160922140651115 Edited November 25, 2016 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckandswing Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 I have a few guns. The first was a browning 525 sporter which I bought new. I have no regrets about buying it. If I had a spare £1500 I'd have a Remington 870 wing master for say around £500 to £600. I'd then have an English s/s maybe again around £500 to £600, then I'd go for a work horse o/u for around the £500 mark, the make wouldn't bother me. All second hand. I love the variety Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) Wood looks a little plain but for the money! https://www.guntrader.uk/guns/shotguns/browning/over-under/12-gauge/b25-b1-140804103309864 https://www.guntrader.uk/guns/shotguns/browning/over-under/12-gauge/b425-prestige-grade-5-160702123306003 Edited November 25, 2016 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Good choices! Not sure whether I'd go for the certainty of the younger miroku made gun or the proper Belgian made Browning. There's lots of choice out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) This is a six https://www.guntrader.uk/guns/shotguns/browning/over-under/12-gauge/b325-grade-6-161013103523006 The wood is a lot better on my 5 than this one and and I don't like the gold inlays. The B325 was the last of the Brownings made with chopper lump barrels instead of the tubed actions of the later models. My gun was made in 89 and is still going strong and will do so for several lifetime's with a bit of love and care. Still whatever the OP goes for, the gun still has to fit him and it doesn't matter how pretty the wood or the engraving ect. It's like the Berretta versus Browning thing. One of the son in laws is a blooming good shot and he like me isn't fussed by the gun but he can't shoot my Browning and if I were to give it to him as a gift he would sell/ offload it. Edited November 25, 2016 by fortune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David.Evans Posted November 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Jesus lads you lot will have me up all nite looking at these guns , but they are thing of beauty , Again thanks for your advice Atb Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 Jesus lads you lot will have me up all nite looking at these guns , but they are thing of beauty , Again thanks for your advice Atb Dave Nice problem to have isn't it! I would love a hand made browning but being a lefty they are rarer than a rare thing in my budget...... Unless I can find one with a Broken stock cheap... My miroku 3800 balances better than my 525...... There are some good deals on the B25 skeet guns as the shorter barrels are out of favour but if you find one that fits in good condition may be worth considering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 Mmm b25 skeet gun.. I do most of my game and rough shooting with a 26" side by side and have grown to like short barrels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 What's the problem of taking any gun out shooting? You aren't exactly going to use it to beat the hide poles in with it. Even if it were a London best it still has to be used for the job that it was made for otherwise there is no point in it's existance. And if it has to be kept in a glass cabinet just as a museum curio and the cheapo pedretti goes out shooting it would be a very sad day As I said that's a personal choice. Personally I wouldn't want to take my Grade 5 MK38 out into a field where it could easily take a knock. As far as I'm concerned that gun's purpose is for clay shooting where it's used and then put back into the slip until I reach the next stand. I have a Hatsan for pigeon shooting. I prefer a semi anyway and if it get's dinked or dropped in the mud it's no big deal. If you or the OP are happy using (what for me is) an expensive gun in the field then go ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sussex gardener Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 Slightly going off topic, I would address the issue of why you are not having great success with your semi. An hour or two spent with a coach would get your accuracy up and identify any issues with gunfit/mount/master eye/lead etc. If then the issue is your gun being a bad fit or a double barrel suits you better, I would look to buy a new/different gun armed with the knowledge of what you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabbitbosher Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 Jesus lads you lot will have me up all nite looking at these guns , but they are thing of beauty , Again thanks for your advice Atb Dave Pop round when you have an afternoon spare , next time I'm testing a few We can see what style / make of gun suits your style of shooting WB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) As I said that's a personal choice. Personally I wouldn't want to take my Grade 5 MK38 out into a field where it could easily take a knock. As far as I'm concerned that gun's purpose is for clay shooting where it's used and then put back into the slip until I reach the next stand. I have a Hatsan for pigeon shooting. I prefer a semi anyway and if it get's dinked or dropped in the mud it's no big deal. If you or the OP are happy using (what for me is) an expensive gun in the field then go ahead. I wouldn't even consider the small risk of taking a gun out shooting as worth a second thought. After all that's what they are made for. I have a lot of all sorts of guns and in all of the years that I have been shooting some have gotten muddied and wet but it all cleans off without any problem. The worst thing that happened was when I was going up a steepish bank and slipped over stuffing the barrels into the ground plugging the barrels with mud. Luckily there was some cow parsley stems nearby and I used one of the long dry stems as a rod to clear the mud out. The most expensive damage that I have ever seen was to a Dickson round action that a gun had left propped up against the side of a parked land rover which was driven off snapping the stock and the most careless was a Berretta SO 4 that was left out in the back of an open back Landover overnight in the rain. Next morning when it was remembered the gun action was red rusty. Still it cleaned up ok. Oh I forgot the worst treatment that I have ever seen to a gun was to a Berretta that had been in the back of a transport box and had been literally covered in mud and it had frozen completely solid to the point that it would not open. The owner took it round to the steam cleaner and blasted the frozen mud of it, gave it a shake and went off shooting with it. Edited November 27, 2016 by fortune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David.Evans Posted November 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 I think wabbitshotter that just what need ! I have had a couple of leasons now , and I'm been told that the guns are a good fit , I'm hitting a few clays , but not many birds , as the birds don't come out of traps and in the same direction , lol I see your a trade member , and for me to Kettering would be a day out ! Thanks for your offer Atb Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveshoots Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 I think wabbitshotter that just what need ! I have had a couple of leasons now , and I'm been told that the guns are a good fit , I'm hitting a few clays , but not many birds , as the birds don't come out of traps and in the same direction , lol I see your a trade member , and for me to Kettering would be a day out ! Thanks for your offer Atb Dave I know Mick very well and have bought some lovely guns off him .I can positevly say go and see him you will not be dissapointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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