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Forget the Swiss arrangement and forget the Norwegian arrangement. Bother those countries need the EU more than the EU needs them. The UK is in a unique position and that is why we will get a better deal. No other country in the EU has the leverage that the UK has.

I think You are wrong. With respect. Germany is that country.
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I think You are wrong. With respect. Germany is that country.

 

I'll have to disagree. Germany needs the EU far more than the UK does. Even taking into account the massive financial contribution it makes, Germany derives far more from the EU than any other country.

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Coming back to the question of lamb. Years ago sheep were kept for their wool, the meat was only a part of the picture. Last year up in the Highlands I asked the question where had all the sheep gone. "Can't make it pay anymore" was the answer but it was because the market for the wool had collapsed, or so I was given to believe.

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We would go bankrupt within a month.

I think we can take this approach with the City where EU is dependent.

We're bankrupt already ☹️

There's no way we can pay of the dept

 

And they would negotiate a lot faster

 

The politicians should get there fingers out of the pie and do there job

The biggest problem is the government has no exit plan and wasn't expecting a out vote

 

Anyway just my thoughts

 

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Coming back to the question of lamb. Years ago sheep were kept for their wool, the meat was only a part of the picture. Last year up in the Highlands I asked the question where had all the sheep gone. "Can't make it pay anymore" was the answer but it was because the market for the wool had collapsed, or so I was given to believe.

 

Back in the old days the wool would usually/often pay for the farms rent and sometimes cover shepherds wages, even as recently as the 70's a shearers price used to be the same price as a pint of beer, when beer went up they put prices up. Now i think it is something like 70p-£1 a sheep (so 1/3 less with inflation) but the wool sales usually don't even cover the cost of the shearing anymore. So it actually cost farmers money to shear there sheep.

 

The NZ system is slightly different as land tends to be cheap, so some big farms but also sheep/stock are often just allowed to fend for themselves, only being brought in a few times a year and not looked very often.

I worked on a farm in OZ where he had never had his cows in to work with them for over 4 years as last time he had them in they demolished his pens. So he had male calfs un castrated bulling sisters/mothers, not ideal cattle management.And that was a tiny 50ish thousand acre farm, just a 1 man operation with seasonal help

Some of the big cattle stations in OZ do round ups by heliopter and shoot any troublesome bulls from the helicopter

 

There working to completely different husbandry and welfare standards, same with most of the imported meat in this country, there is ships docking all the time bringing beef in from Suth America and Africa. Many in their own countries are starving yet there selling whole ships of beef cheaper to the UK

 

Being honest u'd have to go a long way to find farming practices/standards as high as in the UK, but that brings costs (just like any other industry) do u think that cheap imported polish? milk, or brazilian/africain beef is not full of antiboitics or growth hormones or even disease?

 

I hope brexit will make it harder to import stuff so while pushing prices up for many things it will make farming or even manufactoring industries vaible again in this country

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I hope brexit will make it harder to import stuff so while pushing prices up for many things it will make farming or even manufactoring industries vaible again in this country

If its harder to import then we will rely more on local produce. If the local market can't stand higher prices then the price will come down? If we have wider trade agreements we will surely be taking more food stuffs from outside the EU further pushing on prices? When we buy lamb or beef from outside of the EU does the product have tariff attached?

I posted earlier that the Brexit negotiators are saying that a pork carcass can have over 30 different tariffs applied to it depending on how its cut and jointed.

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