bluesj Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 From what i see of it the level playing field that is/was the eu had some steep slopes on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossberg-operator Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Forget the Swiss arrangement and forget the Norwegian arrangement. Bother those countries need the EU more than the EU needs them. The UK is in a unique position and that is why we will get a better deal. No other country in the EU has the leverage that the UK has. I think You are wrong. With respect. Germany is that country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 I think You are wrong. With respect. Germany is that country. But Germany is never going to leave the EU, to all intents and purposes it is the EU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 But Germany is never going to leave the EU, to all intents and purposes it is the EU Exactly bigger and stronger, with a reduced price currency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 I think You are wrong. With respect. Germany is that country. I'll have to disagree. Germany needs the EU far more than the UK does. Even taking into account the massive financial contribution it makes, Germany derives far more from the EU than any other country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead eye alan Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 Simple Clear your desks get back to the uk stop writing the cheques and shut down the border Ok I've just exited Europe I bet it wouldn't take 5 years to sort out a trade deal Just my thoughts All the best Of Well that is the way Trump would do it. May should do exactly that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 Coming back to the question of lamb. Years ago sheep were kept for their wool, the meat was only a part of the picture. Last year up in the Highlands I asked the question where had all the sheep gone. "Can't make it pay anymore" was the answer but it was because the market for the wool had collapsed, or so I was given to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon controller Posted January 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 Simple Clear your desks get back to the uk stop writing the cheques and shut down the border Ok I've just exited Europe I bet it wouldn't take 5 years to sort out a trade deal Just my thoughts All the best Of I agree close the borders and let them come to us and negotiate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 I agree close the borders and let them come to us and negotiate We would go bankrupt within a month. I think we can take this approach with the City where EU is dependent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossberg-operator Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 We would go bankrupt within a month. I think we can take this approach with the City where EU is dependent. Would starve to death too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 We would go bankrupt within a month. I think we can take this approach with the City where EU is dependent. We're bankrupt already ☹️ There's no way we can pay of the dept And they would negotiate a lot faster The politicians should get there fingers out of the pie and do there job The biggest problem is the government has no exit plan and wasn't expecting a out vote Anyway just my thoughts All the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 Coming back to the question of lamb. Years ago sheep were kept for their wool, the meat was only a part of the picture. Last year up in the Highlands I asked the question where had all the sheep gone. "Can't make it pay anymore" was the answer but it was because the market for the wool had collapsed, or so I was given to believe. Back in the old days the wool would usually/often pay for the farms rent and sometimes cover shepherds wages, even as recently as the 70's a shearers price used to be the same price as a pint of beer, when beer went up they put prices up. Now i think it is something like 70p-£1 a sheep (so 1/3 less with inflation) but the wool sales usually don't even cover the cost of the shearing anymore. So it actually cost farmers money to shear there sheep. The NZ system is slightly different as land tends to be cheap, so some big farms but also sheep/stock are often just allowed to fend for themselves, only being brought in a few times a year and not looked very often. I worked on a farm in OZ where he had never had his cows in to work with them for over 4 years as last time he had them in they demolished his pens. So he had male calfs un castrated bulling sisters/mothers, not ideal cattle management.And that was a tiny 50ish thousand acre farm, just a 1 man operation with seasonal help Some of the big cattle stations in OZ do round ups by heliopter and shoot any troublesome bulls from the helicopter There working to completely different husbandry and welfare standards, same with most of the imported meat in this country, there is ships docking all the time bringing beef in from Suth America and Africa. Many in their own countries are starving yet there selling whole ships of beef cheaper to the UK Being honest u'd have to go a long way to find farming practices/standards as high as in the UK, but that brings costs (just like any other industry) do u think that cheap imported polish? milk, or brazilian/africain beef is not full of antiboitics or growth hormones or even disease? I hope brexit will make it harder to import stuff so while pushing prices up for many things it will make farming or even manufactoring industries vaible again in this country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 I hope brexit will make it harder to import stuff so while pushing prices up for many things it will make farming or even manufactoring industries vaible again in this country If its harder to import then we will rely more on local produce. If the local market can't stand higher prices then the price will come down? If we have wider trade agreements we will surely be taking more food stuffs from outside the EU further pushing on prices? When we buy lamb or beef from outside of the EU does the product have tariff attached? I posted earlier that the Brexit negotiators are saying that a pork carcass can have over 30 different tariffs applied to it depending on how its cut and jointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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