walksatnight Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Hi guys I'm just about to apply for my sgc now I do have a bit of history for poaching on military land it was a long time ago 10 years plus I do remember getting a fine but I can't remember the details etc Where can I find all the ins and outs of my history to please the firearms officer Cheers Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Either declare your limited memory to the FEO or apply for a Subject Access Request under the Data Protection Act. Your FEO will already know your record. The only point of a SAR is that you can give exact details rather than a vague memory. Personally, I would just tell the FEO what you can remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scobydog Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Either declare your limited memory to the FEO or apply for a Subject Access Request under the Data Protection Act. Your FEO will already know your record. The only point of a SAR is that you can give exact details rather than a vague memory. Personally, I would just tell the FEO what you can remember. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Just put down the offence when it was to the best of your memory, and that you were fined. The important thing is that you declare the offence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 As above, declare it. They will know anyway and are only asking to see if you are honest enough to declare. Ps I doubt it will be an issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakin stevens Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Admit you have a criminal record, then leave the box blank , they will do the rest .....saves you the guess work . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Hi guys I'm just about to apply for my sgc now I do have a bit of history for poaching on military land it was a long time ago 10 years plus I do remember getting a fine but I can't remember the details etc Where can I find all the ins and outs of my history to please the firearms officer Cheers Jim Just been through this with my S/G renewal...phoned the FEO, told him I couldn't remember dates etc, they know all your SP from day blonk anyway, reply was fill in what you can, we know anyway. Pain in the **** IMO, had my S/G for over 40yrs, yet you still have to jump through hoops like this at renewal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minibbb Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 Personally if I was a FEO I'm not sure I'd want someone convicted of poaching being given a sgc or fac? Doesnt really scream good character!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 Personally if I was a FEO I'm not sure I'd want someone convicted of poaching being given a sgc or fac? Doesnt really scream good character! More about who you are now not who we used to be, plenty out there will have an SGC having done worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southman1 Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 That's a bit strong , minnibbb had a new person start work with he was in the forces from 17 to 35 we got on well with each other,dident tell him I shot clays tilla year later ,then he came out with me a few times got the bug ,applied for his sgc ,all going well ,then a knock on the door ,the feo turned up , told him that he might prosecuted for giving false information that he had no Criminal record ,it turned out that when he was 17 got In to a fight and they both went through a shop window charges for the fight was dropped but breaking the shop window they both went to court got a fine he had to go in front of his commanding officer ,he for got this the feo took this in consideration he was very lucky got his licence so please don't judge everybody Don't you know poachers are the best game keepers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 The proprietor and RFD of a gun shop 20 minutes away from me is a former poacher. 🙂 Just put approximate dates and state you don't know the exact charges if that is the case. It is not declaring that causes problems more often than the conviction, within reason of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benkent Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 As already said just put what you can remember. Most people would have done something silly in their lives at some point in time especially at 17 it's who you are now and as long as you are honest with them it will help a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboysparky Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 That's a bit strong , minnibbb had a new person start work with he was in the forces from 17 to 35 we got on well with each other,dident tell him I shot clays tilla year later ,then he came out with me a few times got the bug ,applied for his sgc ,all going well ,then a knock on the door ,the feo turned up , told him that he might prosecuted for giving false information that he had no Criminal record ,it turned out that when he was 17 got In to a fight and they both went through a shop window charges for the fight was dropped but breaking the shop window they both went to court got a fine he had to go in front of his commanding officer ,he for got this the feo took this in consideration he was very lucky got his licence so please don't judge everybody Don't you know poachers are the best game keepers He forgot it, or more likely, most squaddies think because it was dealt with by the military that's where it stays. This isn't the case, crime in the military is subject to the same reporting and input on PNC etc, a summary hearing by a CO is the same as a magistrates appearance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydi73 Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Personally if I was a FEO I'm not sure I'd want someone convicted of poaching being given a sgc or fac? Doesnt really scream good character!! Have you never made a misjudgement or mistake you regretted but have been given a second chance?!? Like the OP says, it was 10 years ago, I am assuming whilst immature youth not thinking about consequences!! So long as he has kept his nose clean since, I can't see an issue. In answer to the original question, I only had speeding convictions, so many I couldn't remember, so I declared what I remembered and then said I'd had approx. 6-8 more but can't remember dates. So long as you try and be honest and give as much detail as you can, you should be Ok, as already said, they already know the answer, they're just testing to see your honesty, and given your prior, I would try and be as honest and diaphanous as possible!! Let us know how you get on... ATB Lloydi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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