Snoozer Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) Oh dear ips, It looks like a case of the dodgy workman blaming his tools Edited May 31, 2017 by Snoozer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted May 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 If I come to play out next week pal and you let me I'll see how she handles for me??👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted May 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Oh dear ips, It looks like a case of the dodgy workman blaming his tools Ha, thing is yesterdays was off bipod and with a support under the stock so it may as well have been clamped in a workmate. Wind was not particularly evident just a slight breeze but I suppose it could have been enough to effect the grouping. No breeze at all today so if I get the chance I will have another session. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted May 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Update Shot my tried and tested Apollo scope which has never let me down having spent its life on springers. Four shots in group still iffy then target goes out of focus 😞 I have killed my scope. I seem to remember re-paralaxing it some years ago and was a bit sceptical doing it but from memory it went well enough, could this be the reason why it died ? Certainly may answer the poor grouping but doesn't answer poor grouping with the tactical scope I had on and have now put on again. This is not the first time I have experienced dead scopes and one wonders if they die slowly giving poor results or just die all of a sudden ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 If it helps I have a Hawke Sport HD 3-9x50 AO scope gathering dust - you are welcome to borrow it for as long as you need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted May 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Your very kind Bruno, very kind offer. I will see how I go with the tactical and bare it in mind. Ps What a great forum, full of sincere and generous folk 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted May 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Ok 25yd no wind to speak of. Prone off bipod bisley mags (at least that's what I think they are) tactical x6 - 40 scope. Now it may not look like it but it felt like it was grouping much better, had the odd wayward shot but I admit to two of them 😁 Its difficult even at 25yd with 6 mag, at 15yd it was pretty much one hole. Maybe I need a bigger scope, what mag do people use at 30-40 yd ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonk Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 I use x8 mag all the time, Mainly because I have 3-9 scopes and have a thing about odd numbers so no technical thought behind it! Works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Mines a 6*24*44 tasco varmint you can have a look when I come over. I don't put it much past 12 mag really as you loose a lot of surrounding and if the range isn't quite right the focus goes off so 8 or 10 normally for me. I would still say your grouping is off, is scope square not canting over or are you when your shooting? Might be the newness might be you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted May 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Yes I am not happy with it but I felt it was grouping slightly better. Scope is bang on as far as I can tell. Not aware of it being me but see how you get on with it. Ps If you get it grouping 1/2" you and I are over 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 To rub salt in the wound you should get that with my clumsy.22 😅 be looking at next Thursday or Friday with my shifts we'll have to see what the weather looks like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Ha I cant argue with that I love my 400 Was only having a laugh nothing meant with malice AA 410 was my favourite pcp and had a few. Have you tightened the scope down in turn and level,even so plenty would be happy with your grouping,unless you are target shooter and selecting individual pellets lubed and carefully stored. It will get much better once barrell is leaded in,have you tried pushing range out a bit further to see if pellet is on a better path,try moving target out 5yrds and see what happens then another 5 yrds ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted May 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 No problem. No not tried that mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 My groups this evening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Inner circle is 20 mm outer 40 mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Go on then elaborate, why the difference? Rested and free hand? 25yard and 50yards, its a slow night ☹ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Cheers mice .i appreciate the bite . The range is 75 uds for the first pic and 90 yds for the second . So thats about a 35 mm group for the 90 yds . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 See showing off now, I didn't think it was going to be close in. Please tell me you were leaning on something because if it was free hand I'll get all giddy. I didn't expect an air rifle fac or not to be able to perform at those ranges, always thought of fac air just giving a bit more range but more whack when the pellet gets there, I'm impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 Cheers .yes they were with the fac .25 Shooting jsb kings at 45 fpe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 I have a bipod on this gun (the only one i do actually )because as you can see its very capable long range It was very still this eve and made for ideal conditions . I shoot this on only 12x mag as the trajectory works with my ret . The only other scope that would work is a 24 x monster that costs £400 and im not sure i can justify that scope to tighten those 90 yds groups a bit . It is very hard to shoot those 90 yd groups but the 75 -80 yds groups are 1 inch easy Ps the drop from its 45 yd zero is 15 inches at 90 yds . Thats why cant elimination is paramount There ia a massive jump in performance when you go to .25 over .177 or .22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 Did you mean 15 inches?? That's crazy, I cant imagine you can still see the target with the amount of hold over needed. Going to be more than a couple of mil dots that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esca Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 Has any one tried the H&N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 Yes it is a 15 inch drop from zero and a 22 inch total drop from barrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 Ips just a thought you mentioned earlier about putting your rifle in a work mate, have you tried it? Get it all nice and stable fire off a mag and see what happens, can't do any harm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted June 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 Nope not done yet, I am like a dog with a bone now I don't like being beaten. Ultrastu didn't help with his 90yd mallarkey 😁 Only kidding Stu 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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