flippermaj Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 Now I know this topic has been done before but could any one offer some practical advice before I start drilling! The new house is of modern construction and to get the cabinet secured to an outside wall I need to go through the plaster board and some 5 inches of kingspan insulation before I will reach breeze block. I thought the way to do it would be with threaded rod and chemical fixing so that he rod is glued into the wall and the cabinet then bolted to the rods. Problem is my masonry bit will not be long enough to get through the kingspan to the breeze block??? Is this the best way to go about it? Any advice appreciated. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 Buy a longer masonry bit 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve d Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 My house is the same, even if you get to breeze block, its too soft to provide a good anchor. Luckily I have an internal garage thats cocooned in fire blocks?, these are a b1tch to drill into but once you have, it aint going anywhere with rawlbolts. My FEO was happy with the cabinets being in the garage as I can bolt it from the inside and go through the firedoor into the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 I am a builder and i just wanted to wish you all the best for your project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 Longer drill bit, or find a concrete floor & fix the safe to it in the horizontal position, or fix in the loft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpler1991 Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 4x screws in to plaster with bolt heads glued over the top? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 That "No More Nails" stuff may just be the thing you need to save time & effort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caravanman Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 A new build will have a concrete floor so just bolt it into that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycooker Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 Self tappers n double sided sticky tape simples Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrylegs0 Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 Try large expanding butterfly bolts mine are about 4 inch expanded inside plaster wall rock solid fixing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 I'm confused on the 5" of kingspan then block. How thick are your walls? I used the chemical fixings last time and I'm impressed. Mine aren't breeze block tho mine are ash/concrete block but still soft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flippermaj Posted September 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 The walls are at least 10 inches thick maybe more. I note that there are some suggestions just to screw or bolt it to the plaster board, I didn't think that was good enough for FEO's? Cheers for the replys so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 Um, sounds like a pig of a job. Could you cut the insulation out and set the cabinet into the wall ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 ....got a staple gun & a couple of dozen strips of extra deep staples? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 Um, sounds like a pig of a job. Could you cut the insulation out and set the cabinet into the wall ?? That would be a condensation nightmare! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 That would be a condensation nightmare! Never thought of that, your probably right. Forget that idea then 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 I'm confused on the 5" of kingspan then block. How thick are your walls? I was also confused,which is why i passd on by,not sure construction of block and 125mm of king span is correct though ! never heard of that before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasabi Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 I had a similar problem a few years ago. I used a hole cutter to cut through the plaster board and insulation down to the block. I then drilled into the block and inserted threaded rod which I glued in with an adhesive I got from a builders merchants, looked like porridge and came in a sealant gun tube. I let that dry and filled the holes in the insulation with expanding foam. I then put the cabinet onto the threaded bars and used nuts and washers to secure it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycho Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 Use a longer drill bit plus Fischer chemical anchor and 300mm bar.that's what I used in my new build house had to cut through the King's pan to get to wall used a core drill of 25mm then the 10mm for the bar to go through the block popped in chemical then bar and it bonds better than steel... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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