mick miller Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 Man shed, well actually in this case, woman shed issues. Despite my somewhat rushed diagram showing where all the cables should be (going well up till now), I cut an opening in the ceiling where the cable should be only to reveal a noggin and a lump of kingspan.So, as the electrics aren't live yet and the wandering wire isn't live either, my question is will one of those £12.99 stud/metal/AC cable detectors find the wire if just set to metal? Otherwise I'll have to cut more holes and do more patching and filling (reluctantly) as it's all plastered, painted and looking lovely. Advice from the pw masses please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 Do you have any friends who metal detect. We use a thing called a pin pointer .very handy .but not cheap to buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 Can you find the other end? put some current on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decoy1979 Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 I don't know the answer but I guess it will cost you £12.99 to find out, or ask for a local pw member with access to a Cat & Genny or similar to trace it for you maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted October 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 Are cat & genny a couple of weslyians? If so, I'd rather not give them a call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owain Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 How big is the hole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 Do you have any friends who metal detect. We use a thing called a pin pointer .very handy .but not cheap to buy.I have a C Scope metal detector, but a cheap pinpointer from amazon which works very well so far.https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01MQM93GU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 Put your phone through the holes and the some photo's, you may be lucky and get to see the cables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haynes Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 I'm a chippy and use one of these stud finder things, they work better with current flowing through the cable. Ie plug a radio or drill into the outlet. There ok but fail miserably near Kingspan as it has a metal foil on both sides. The expensive ones are no more accurate. You might try hooking it out with a bent piece of wire. Go fishing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockySpears Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 Tone generator, Know any one in BT/Open reach? I can send you one to borrow. Basically used to find dead cables. Tone generator applied to one end of cable, then a probe "listens" for the other end or any part in between. It has short range but usually works ok, RS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 You can buy cheap bore scopes for your phone or tablet that work very well it could work for you if you have space above the joists for it look over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 You can buy cheap bore scopes for your phone or tablet that work very well it could work for you if you have space above the joists for it look over. Great idea Figgy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted October 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 Okay, the tone generator seems the best suggestion as the hole is patched and the electrics ate not connected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 Tone generator, Know any one in BT/Open reach? I can send you one to borrow. Basically used to find dead cables. Tone generator applied to one end of cable, then a probe "listens" for the other end or any part in between. It has short range but usually works ok, RS Okay, the tone generator seems the best suggestion as the hole is patched and the electrics ate not connected. I've used tone generators at work and they do work at a close range, ie probe almost touching the cable, if you can borrow one off rockyspears then it is worth a shot, but personally I wouldn't go and buy one, failing that I find at work that if you drill a hole big enough to get you phone camera up where the fitting is going and do some recording with the flash on and then fish the cable works best, but this will only work if the excess is coiled with tape not a cable tie. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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