Tungsten Super Shot 18

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Has anyone ordered any TSS 18 direct from the manufacturer in China or inquired a price per kilo ?

Been looking on this website http://www.guangxitungsten.com/tungsten-super-shot-2884712.html they list all sorts of shot and bullets, even tundsten shot carts in sellier & bellot carts.

[Fen tiger]

No sorry i have not, but thank you for the link i will enquire on the price.

[Stonepark]

I bought a kilo when £ was higher, worked out at £70ish.

 

Gone into 410 duck loads.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

I do like the sound of their nominal prices!

[Guest cookoff013]

Wouldn't mind banging this off in a pressure barrel.

[6.5x55SE]

Has anyone ordered any TSS 18 direct from the manufacturer in China or inquired a price per kilo ?

Been looking on this website http://www.guangxitungsten.com/tungsten-super-shot-2884712.html they list all sorts of shot and bullets, even tundsten shot carts in sellier & bellot carts.

No but i well and truly Stuffed a Pink the other morning with 1oz 7.5 TSS

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6.5x55se what sort of speed are you pushing it at. Be a heck of a dense pattern too, seems odd that with tss your shot size goes smaller than lead the opposite of steel.

I think a 3mm 34 or 36 gram load would be a cracking Canada and Greylag foreshore or high passing goose load.

Edited October 29, 2017 by figgy

[Guest cookoff013]

6.5x55se what sort of speed are you pushing it at. Be a heck of a dense pattern too, seems odd that with tss your shot size goes smaller than lead the opposite of steel.

I think a 3mm 34 or 36 gram load would be a cracking Canada and Greylag foreshore or high passing goose load.

6.5x55se what sort of speed are you pushing it at. Be a heck of a dense pattern too, seems odd that with tss your shot size goes smaller than lead the opposite of steel.

I think a 3mm 34 or 36 gram load would be a cracking Canada and Greylag foreshore or high passing goose load.

#9toss is like #2 lead(us)

[figgy]

Sounds like the perfect shot if only the price was lower and more readily available.

[Ttfjlc]

Exit wound and entry wound of a goose, I'll upload the description which is from America in a bit.

Edited October 29, 2017 by Ttfjlc

[Ttfjlc]

This is from America, I know 25 yards isn't exactly far but still impressive stuff.

[6.5x55SE]

Exit wound and entry wound

One's I've shot with HW13 PWS and HW18 it's put the pellets clean through at 60 yrd 😊 👍

Edited October 29, 2017 by 6.5x55SE

[Ttfjlc]

One's I've shot with HW13 PWS and HW18 it's put the pellets clean through at 60 yrd 😊 👍

Oh no not another 'clean through' post.

[Ttfjlc]

Meant to say Boyd if you are on Facebook the group is called 'Super-18 Tungsten Shot', they don't seem to mind sharing a lot of info especially for smaller gauges if it's of any help.

[6.5x55SE]

Meant to say Boyd if you are on Facebook the group is called 'Super-18 Tungsten Shot', they don't seem to mind sharing a lot of info especially for smaller gauges if it's of any help.

Can't be doing with FB J but I've spoke to Hal who imports and develops tested TSS loads from .410 up 10 ga.

For me personally I'd stick with PWS or HW13 easier to get cheaper and plenty of free data.

Trouble is J as I've said many times Super Shot won't turn a Pooooop shot into Digweed but put up front it certainly is a eye opener 👍

[Ttfjlc]

Can't be doing with FB J but I've spoke to Hal who imports and develops tested TSS loads from .410 up 10 ga.

For me personally I'd stick with PWS or HW13 easier to get cheaper and plenty of free data.

Trouble is J as I've said many times Super Shot won't turn a Pooooop shot into Digweed but put up front it certainly is a eye opener 👍

Easier to get? You haven't met SWMBO, she can be a formidable force when I want something for myself

[motty]

The hw18 that i have, and have used is better than you would ever expect. It is 7.5 shot and because of that, penetrates extremely well. I will post a picture of a pink i shot with it last season. The problem is the price. I can't justify buying it over hw13. By the way, Figgy, tss would be a waste of time in too big a size. A 3mm pellet would probably have the energy to kill a goose at 120 yards, but obviously not have the pattern.

[Stonepark]

The hw18 that i have, and have used is better than you would ever expect. It is 7.5 shot and because of that, penetrates extremely well. I will post a picture of a pink i shot with it last season. The problem is the price. I can't justify buying it over hw13. By the way, Figgy, tss would be a waste of time in too big a size. A 3mm pellet would probably have the energy to kill a goose at 120 yards, but obviously not have the pattern.

 

3mm tss has enough energy to kill geese to 90 yards.

 

As with every cartridge, you need to pattern it, however I suspect 36g will have a useful pattern to a least 60 yards with full choke with 3mm and a bit further if fired through an after market extra full.

 

Some of the patterns i have seen from the other side of the pond are still throwing 50% plus patterns at 100 yards through the right gun/choke combination.

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Stonepark 50% At 100 yards is still plenty on a goose for a clean kill. Pacing out 100 yards not many would even take a shot at that range.

 

Could be a punt gunners dream though load up fortune in it and shoot a full flock at 100 yards. Then spend the rest of your day picking up.

Or cry your eyes out if you miss

Edited October 30, 2017 by figgy

[Guest cookoff013]

Not at that price per shot anyway

[figgy]

Very impressive stuff, if it retains energy well a no 9 shot should kill to a decent range with its small surface area should still give good penetration.

[Old farrier]

Anyone tried this with black powder as the propellant?

 

All the best

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[Guest cookoff013]

Anyone tried this with black powder as the propellant?

 

All the best

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i would be very warey of this. it needs special shotcups as is due to it being about 10x more hard than steel. let alone the annoyance of being quite considerably dense. i estimated a 25g steel wad could hold 60grams of this stuff.

[Old farrier]

 

i would be very warey of this. it needs special shotcups as is due to it being about 10x more hard than steel. let alone the annoyance of being quite considerably dense. i estimated a 25g steel wad could hold 60grams of this stuff.

Bit of a ballistic nightmare thinking I better stick with black powder and bismuth and get a bit closer 😉😊

 

Thanks for your reply

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[Guest cookoff013]

i doubt it would be "that" much of a nightmare. its just a few rules of thumb that make slight sense.

tungsten is hard, so it can be shot well fast, steel is hard, and can be shot fast. lead is soft and should be shot slow, same as busmuth and some tungsten sinter.

as its "very" dense then normal shells would be one and a half ounces or so. as its so dense #9 is about the same as #2 lead (1300fps model). just take advantage of the density, but be realistic.

shotguns work really well with lots of shot, dense shot too (thats lead).

 

when using either large payloads of extremely dense shot litterally just sits there upon ignition, because it takes more and more energy to get it moving in the first instance. so slow or slow-slow is powders should be used.

if you used a low payload such as 25 grams or some such... its only a handfull of #7.5, or 2.4mm whaterver shot so hardly worth it. i have heard of a guy duplexing it, but it what he did was 20 pellets of 3mm tss topped off with steel shot,.

not something i would do because the low shotcount of the dense stuff.