mattyg1086 Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) Is vaping nicotine free oil bad for you? Are the vapes actually safe? Edited November 19, 2017 by mattyg1086 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishop Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 Full of chemicals.Chemicals that do not belong in your lungs.I lost my maw to COPD a few years back,the most horrible death you can imagine.I did not want my boy to see me die that way.I stopped smoking there and then.The vaping manufacturers are making money just like the tobacco manufacturers.And just like the tobacco manufacturers did back in the 60's they will tell you its safe enough .My lungs are messed up m8,too late for me but if you can --- stay away from vapes of any kind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uilleachan Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 Vaping is now generally accepted as being "much safer than smoking" or "much less dangerous than smoking". http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-41333537 Vaping is about to be recommended by health professionals as an effective and arguably more effective route, to quitting cigarettes. It's not going to be good for you, but it isn't anywhere as bad as smoking. That said I wouldn't start vaping unless I was trying to quit the tabs. Nicotine isn't the problem per se, it's the 3900 other chemicals in fag smoke and the plethora of issues they cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wb123 Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 Probably, but also probably less so than the real thing. A couple of colleagues switched over and went from smoking ten a day to the equivalent of over a hundred a day. Cheap, convenient, and enjoyable they tell me. Neither were looking to stop smoking they were looking to save time and money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyg1086 Posted November 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 I'm not looking to take it up I'm just curious as I see this so often it must be more popular than actual smoking and I'm sure some people have just started vaping because they think it's cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewh100 Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 2 hours ago, mattyg1086 said: Is vaping nicotine free oil bad for you? Are the vapes actually safe? think anything inhaled is not good for you, will only be a matter of time before it comes out how bad vaping is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, mattyg1086 said: Is vaping nicotine free oil bad for you? Are the vapes actually safe? You decide. Some of the chemicals in them are the same as in insecticides that were withdrawn years ago. Just give if you do it? Edited November 19, 2017 by old man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) There is little doubt that it is 'harmful'. - The question is 'how harmful'? That it is less harmful than tobacco seems to be generally agreed, but I don't think anyone in a knowledgeable position would suggest it is harmless. As a way of quitting cigarettes, it has a place (ideally at the bottom of the car park!) I suspect that (like diesel fumes) some bright spark will, in due course, find harmful aspects. Add to that that I can see no point at all in 'nicotine free' vaping - and the smell of some of them (like sweet bubblegum) is enough to make one retch ........ Edited November 19, 2017 by JohnfromUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 Its not something i would recommend anyone starting, but i don't see it as any different than any other nicotine replacement product to help people stop smoking. They all do the same thing in different ways deliver nicotine into your body without a cigarette. 6 hours ago, bishop said: Full of chemicals.Chemicals that do not belong in your lungs.I lost my maw to COPD a few years back,the most horrible death you can imagine.I did not want my boy to see me die that way.I stopped smoking there and then.The vaping manufacturers are making money just like the tobacco manufacturers.And just like the tobacco manufacturers did back in the 60's they will tell you its safe enough .My lungs are messed up m8,too late for me but if you can --- stay away from vapes of any kind. So if someone can not stop smoking any other way, your advice don't vape just keep on smoking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 3 hours ago, davewh100 said: think anything inhaled is not good for you, will only be a matter of time before it comes out how bad vaping is What about chemical people inhale as medicines, are they not good for you. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uilleachan Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 What about all the chemicals, many in common with fag smoke, that are present and are emitted by new household furnishings and fittings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 6 hours ago, bishop said: Full of chemicals.Chemicals that do not belong in your lungs. That is simply not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, poontang said: That is simply not true. Why is this "simply not true"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 Just now, JohnfromUK said: Why is this "simply not true"? Because they're simply not full of chemicals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 Just now, poontang said: Because they're simply not full of chemicals. There is a lot in there in addition to water and air - flavours etc. They are all chemicals 36 minutes ago, ordnance said: What about chemical people inhale as medicines, are they not good for you. ? Some people need medicines for illnesses and aliments; they would not be 'good' for healthy people. Sometimes the medicine - even if harmful - is better than not taking it - Chemotherapy for example. Vaping is believed to be better than cigarette smoke, but that doesn't mean it is 'good for you'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 1 minute ago, JohnfromUK said: There is a lot in there in addition to water and air - flavours etc. They are all chemicals We're surrounded by chemicals in just about everything we eat and drink. You know the OP was claiming e-cigs are full of harmful chemicals... which they're not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishop Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 vaping is not simply a way to stop its a way to start.That alone is enough reason to avoid it.I curse the man who would encourage someone to start smoking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 they certainly beat the pants off fags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 36 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: There is a lot in there in addition to water and air - flavours etc. They are all chemicals Some people need medicines for illnesses and aliments; they would not be 'good' for healthy people. Sometimes the medicine - even if harmful - is better than not taking it - Chemotherapy for example. Vaping is believed to be better than cigarette smoke, but that doesn't mean it is 'good for you'. I don't think anyone is saying its good for you, but better than the alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, ordnance said: I don't think anyone is saying its good for you, but better than the alternative. And I'm 100% in agreement with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 31 minutes ago, bishop said: where did i advise anyone to keep on smoking you muppet.He said nothing about not being able to quit smoking . The fact is you don't know if it is harmful or not , so why are you posting its Chemicals that do not belong in your lungs, what Chemicals are you talking about. ? PS I I try not to post my opinion as facts unlike you as it can make you come across as a muppet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 44 minutes ago, poontang said: We're surrounded by chemicals in just about everything we eat and drink. You know the OP was claiming e-cigs are full of harmful chemicals... which they're not. I take your point, but I remain unconvinced that there is any justification for being certain the chemicals aren't 'harmful'. The original poster asked "Is vaping nicotine free oil bad for you?" "Are the vapes actually safe?" My simple answers would be Possibly - not proven Possibly not - again not proven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 Nicotine has long been used as an insecticide. Soaking cigarette butts in warm water then straining and spraying gets rid of insects. As for vaping you can buy medical grade stuff and make your own e cig liquid. The internet is full of recipes and links where to buy the products in bulk. Its certainly better than smoking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 1 hour ago, bishop said: vaping is not simply a way to stop its a way to start.That alone is enough reason to avoid it.I curse the man who would encourage someone to start smoking. You would wonder how people started smoking before vaping, what evidence do you have that vaping is a factor on people starting smoking. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLondon Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 As an ex smoker and now vapist I can only comment on my experience,and that is once I stopped the fags within 2 weeks I felt a whole lot better, no breathlessness no coughing and no wheezing at night. i still vape and if it is bad for you I certainly have had no side effects. As has been posted it’s got to be better than smoking fags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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