R6demon Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) Hi Guys, I have just built my NV unit with the help of another member for use on the .17 HMR, but I am using a cheap 'Carls Customs T20' IR torch that I picked up on ebay and the image isn't great on open fields (I live in Cambs). Whats the general consensus on torches these days, can anyone recommend a good IR and Red torch that doesn't cost me a kidney? Does anyone have a SH one taking up space.....? Also, what batteries do you use, I have some Green Ultrafire DT 18650 8800mAh, again from ebay but they are getting tired I think. Thank you! Edited February 2, 2018 by R6demon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 A T38 or T50 torch from somewhere like Ludicrous Lumens will serve you well. Any 18650 battery labelled as much above 3400/3600mAh is generally chinese rubbish and produces about a tenth of what is stated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 Ludicrous Lumens sell great IR torches (T38, T50 etc) but I have just tried a PBir (Paul Baker) torch and it's about the best. Paul can be contacted via Facebook. Be careful buying 18650 batteries, there's a lot of fakes about, all promising 'high power'. There are a few NV sites on Facebook that will advise you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn2233 Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 This seems to get good reviews http://www.nightvisionstore.co.uk/black-sunnranger-ruby-ir-illuminator-c2x24734248 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haynes Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 I bought a t67 torch kit with interchangeble leds from opticfire. Been very impressed with it. So much so I've just bought a t50 to mount on the scope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R6demon Posted February 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 26 minutes ago, martyn2233 said: This seems to get good reviews http://www.nightvisionstore.co.uk/black-sunnranger-ruby-ir-illuminator-c2x24734248 WOW! £104 thats a big step up!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R6demon Posted February 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 Thank you for the feedback guys. The issue is also with weight as I have a bad back, looking at the T67 etc, they will add quite a bit of bulk to the gun......? it sounds like a new torch will go on the shopping list for the NEC show in a couple of weeks, I just need to see them in the flesh to judge the weight!! Ive seen quite a few mentions of a 3x42 or 4x50 sunnranger on the forum when searching this topic, but I can find out what they are or where to get them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliveward Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 No need to replace the whole thing R6demon. Just stick a replacement T20 Ruby pill in it. It will be more than you need on a HMR. I use one on a .223. Clear target definition at 10x out to 350-400 yards and easily see the backstop out to 600 with a digital add on. Cheers Clive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 41 minutes ago, cliveward said: No need to replace the whole thing R6demon. Just stick a replacement T20 Ruby pill in it. It will be more than you need on a HMR. I use one on a .223. Clear target definition at 10x out to 350-400 yards and easily see the backstop out to 600 with a digital add on. Cheers Clive ^^^^ this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 hello, have a look at the new TR torches from ludicrous looms, my 38 in red pil can do 250 yards, i would think a TR with I/R pil will be as good, andy at LL is very helpfull, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marccus Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 Give Andy a ring or email at ludicrous lumens. Top bloke with sound advice and a good product. I can't praise him up enough. After sales service is second to none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R6demon Posted February 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2018 16 hours ago, cliveward said: No need to replace the whole thing R6demon. Just stick a replacement T20 Ruby pill in it. It will be more than you need on a HMR. I use one on a .223. Clear target definition at 10x out to 350-400 yards and easily see the backstop out to 600 with a digital add on. Cheers Clive Do you mean one of these?? http://www.nightvisionstore.co.uk/black-sun-2-ir-pill-for-t20-c2x23877897 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangey Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 On 02/02/2018 at 09:12, R6demon said: Hi Guys, I have just built my NV unit with the help of another member for use on the .17 HMR, but I am using a cheap 'Carls Customs T20' IR torch that I picked up on ebay and the image isn't great on open fields (I live in Cambs). Whats the general consensus on torches these days, can anyone recommend a good IR and Red torch that doesn't cost me a kidney? Does anyone have a SH one taking up space.....? Also, what batteries do you use, I have some Green Ultrafire DT 18650 8800mAh, again from ebay but they are getting tired I think. Thank you! got a pbir x for sale £85 posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 hello, if you have an old lap top computer the battery pack should be 8 18650s i got 6 good ones from mine, also if anyone you know uses a smoking inhaler thingy they use the same battery i got 6 off a fishing club member. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clakk Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 Shh you,l put the price up if you let the secret out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R6demon Posted February 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 7 hours ago, rangey said: got a pbir x for sale £85 posted Pm sent Rangey! 6 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, if you have an old lap top computer the battery pack should be 8 18650s i got 6 good ones from mine, also if anyone you know uses a smoking inhaler thingy they use the same battery i got 6 off a fishing club member. Great tip thank you!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R6demon Posted February 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 On 04/02/2018 at 08:38, rangey said: got a pbir x for sale £85 posted Pm sent Rangey! On 04/02/2018 at 10:05, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, if you have an old lap top computer the battery pack should be 8 18650s i got 6 good ones from mine, also if anyone you know uses a smoking inhaler thingy they use the same battery i got 6 off a fishing club member. Great tip thank you!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R6demon Posted February 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 Guys just to close this out, I bought the PBiR-X from Rangey and WOW what a difference!! It’s small light and I can clearly see out passed 400yds with my home brew NV kit. I also bought a couple of these batteries batteries which ran all night without any issues https://ecoluxshopdirect.co.uk/battery-charger/18650-button-top-high-drain-battery/ampsplus-18650-3500mah-10a-button-battery.html AMPS+5 gives you a 10% discount! im very pleased with the new set up, thank you for your help! Now to find a decent red pill for thenold T20 for spotting them!! Any suggestions?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 5 hours ago, R6demon said: Guys just to close this out, I bought the PBiR-X from Rangey and WOW what a difference!! It’s small light and I can clearly see out passed 400yds with my home brew NV kit. I also bought a couple of these batteries batteries which ran all night without any issues https://ecoluxshopdirect.co.uk/battery-charger/18650-button-top-high-drain-battery/ampsplus-18650-3500mah-10a-button-battery.html AMPS+5 gives you a 10% discount! im very pleased with the new set up, thank you for your help! Now to find a decent red pill for thenold T20 for spotting them!! Any suggestions?? You could try Ludicrous Lumens for an 'AS' red pil. These are quite powerful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R6demon Posted February 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) I’ve tried to shop at LL a couple of times steve but the outage always kills it, £6 something, regardless of what you have. I’ve contact them a couple of times but they say that’s what they charge :( when I can send a parcel for a couple of quid these days it seems excessive :( Edited February 10, 2018 by R6demon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 15 minutes ago, R6demon said: I’ve tried to shop at LL a couple of times steve but the outage always kills it, £6 something, regardless of what you have. I’ve contact them a couple of times but they say that’s what they charge :( when I can send a parcel for a couple of quid these days it seems excessive :( I agree with you. Didn't realise about the pp. You could try the Torch Factory, (they are on Facebook too) they sell pils for the T20 etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 hello, i was looking at a I/R pil for my TR 38 and i thought £6 post excessive, not sure if LL are the only seller of the TR version torches, T20 pils do not fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R6demon Posted February 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 If your looking for an ir pill the ruby pill is supposed to be the best from all my research a buddy of mine has fittted it to his PBIR but I am yet to compare the two!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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