Walker570 Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 OOOOOOPS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 every action has an equal and opposite reaction............................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 Just pop that channel into your press and it will straighten out. I've just seen a flaw in my plan??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) just had a quiker look at that........didnt notice before that you have used channel........if you replace that top beam with an RSJ or "I" beam you should be fine...then replace the bottom one with an RSJ...the rest of the stuff is in tension and should be alright................alter your point loading ...it is too localised ...where the jack ram meets the beam put a 1" thick plate on about 5" square.. if it were me i would just put a couple of peices of wood either side with sum gaffer tape ....jobs a gooden.. Edited April 13, 2018 by ditchman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovercoupe Posted April 13, 2018 Report Share Posted April 13, 2018 Well at least you know you are not lacking in omph! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 9 hours ago, la bala said: Got a bit more done today, seam welded everything together, it did tighten the adjustable table a wee bit but a whack up and down with the 7 pounder sorted it. Collected some EN bar for table pins, and a piece of 35mm diameter for press main pin. I welded the press pin in and put everything together, stood back and thought this is going well. Yer Ok . Now any of you on here who are in later years will know, some of us oldies do from time to time lack a bit of concentration. Before I go any further I must tell you, I had plans and intentions of beefing up the top of the press main frame, in fact the 12mm plate was lying on the floor ready to make some big gussets. This was the next job after lunch. Getting back in the workshop after lunch, I stood there having a rollup and admiring my press, this is where it started to go mammories up . I stood back and thought i will give it a little test run. On my bench i had got a big old lump of brass with a pin going through it which was also brass, this had been in the ground many years and i thought it would be a good test. The pin measured just over 8mm so obviously an imperial measurement, well after bending a couple of short 8mm bolts I tried a short stainless one, so off we go pumping the press. This is better, this bolt isnt bending, gave it a couple of more pumps, surely it will go in a minute. Yes, I can hear you all saying, he hasnt finished the top frame.. Tell you what boys this getting old aint much fun. But like of have said before, if i am doing a project I will always tell you if i make a monumental c@ckup. You didn't collect the bar from an engineering shop with the big white doors on harecroft road did you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Surely this should all be put down to "under development." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Well your pins didn’t shear so that’s a plus this stuff happens to me all the time just carry on and re design for another one good project thanks for sharing all the best of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Well the jack works , and the welds held . So can't be all bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 your springs aint strong enuff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted April 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Cut the bent top channel out today, boy had that got some tension on it. It had pulled the sides a bit but fixable. Now I was hoping I had enough channel to put two lengths back to back to make an I beam, **** law I hadnt. As I didnt want to spend any more on the project I decided to use whatever I could find in the workshop. I had one piece of channel, I put that back in the top with the help of the new jack. I then found a nice bit of 12mm plate, that will make me two good size gussets, the only problem with the plate, its galvanised so had to spend a bit of time grinding it off. As I was cutting the gussets I cut a plate to go under the top bar where the jack head pushes on. The next job is to grind some bevels on the plates to get a good weld. I have added a rough sketch to show how the press should finish up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 welll............i think that looks the dogs dingy -i-dongs.......watching this thread with aprehension do you know what "intestate" means.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Cant beat a good big gusset! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, Big Mat said: Cant beat a good big gusset! And back to Fat Sarah again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 It will end up as heavy as mine.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, bornfree said: It will end up as heavy as mine.? and we have all seen your gussets.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted April 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 31 minutes ago, bornfree said: It will end up as heavy as mine.? I wouldnt like to foot the bill for the metal used in yours bornfree, it would get me a month on a cruise liner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 19 minutes ago, la bala said: I wouldnt like to foot the bill for the metal used in yours bornfree, it would get me a month on a cruise liner I wouldn't go on the cruise liner I cut the 1" plate from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted April 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 Had an enjoyable day today, been playing with gussets, its so satisfying just moving the gusset around to get it in the right place . Only problem was that carp galvanising, i thought i had cleaned it well but it shows up in the welding, horrible stuff not good for your health either. The adjustable table was still binding a bit so I cut the end strengtheners out and repositioned them. I have just got to finish the top bar and I will be on track. Just remembered, i need some more springs, one set doesnt quite do the job of returning the jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 That looks substantially stronger! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 Last time I saw something similar was in the French Revolution ? so when do you fit the blade ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, Old farrier said: Last time I saw something similar was in the French Revolution ? so when do you fit the blade ? good one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted April 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Old farrier said: Last time I saw something similar was in the French Revolution ? so when do you fit the blade ? Now there is an idea O.F, do you think there is a sale for them. Mind you it would have to run more freely than my press table was, the prisoner would die of boredom waiting for the blade to fall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 Just now, la bala said: Now there is an idea O.F, do you think there is a sale for them. Mind you it would have to run more freely than my press table was, the prisoner would die of boredom waiting for the blade to fall On the plus side think of the jumpers that the old crones could knit you ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted April 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, ditchman said: good one... Naff off and polish yer bits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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