yeet Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 I have been looking at cheap pcp air rifles around £300-£500 and was wondering if I could contact the supplier/company and ask if they would increase the power to FAC standard, I am a certificate holder for a +12ft/lbs air rifle. It would seem that this would be possible because if you look at American reviews of air rifles available in the UK they say they are pushing 20-30ft/lbs whilst ours are getting 12ft/lbs maximum. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewh100 Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 plenty around got my AA s400 26ft from local shop in skipton just need to ring around plenty about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 The 12 lb limit is the Law here. It doesn’t apply in the US. Yes you can get you rifle changed to fac rating by a gunsmith. They will need to see your fac and the rifle will remain fac rated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewh100 Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 Just now, DC177 said: The 12 lb limit is the Law here. It doesn’t apply in the US. Yes you can get you rifle changed to fac rating by a gunsmith. They will need to see your fac and the rifle will remain fac rated. yeah bang on the money as dc177 says carnt be put back to sub 12ft must stay fac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 Joined the forum 1 hour ago ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 hello, if you google FAC air rifles UK should give you a list or web sites that you can purchase, cheaper to buy in FAC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ultrastu said: Joined the forum 1 hour ago ? And your point is? The OP has stated he has a certificate for +12ft/lbs, so possibly from Ireland, or UK with an FAC. Its a perfectly reasonable question to ask. Edited July 12, 2018 by turbo33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 If you've got a FAC there are plenty available. If you haven't, then no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 29 minutes ago, turbo33 said: And your point is? The OP has stated he has a certificate for +12ft/lbs, so possibly from Ireland, or UK with an FAC. Its a perfectly reasonable question to ask. Yeh but it is an odd question for a FAC holder to ask though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) 45 minutes ago, DC177 said: Yeh but it is an odd question for a FAC holder to ask though. Why? Might not be the traditional route, and I agree that maybe he isn't very knowledgable about the factory produced availability, or even the second hand market. But we don't know where he comes from. He says he has a +12ft/lbs certificate. Is it a UK FAC? We don't know. Still, if you don't ask, you won't know. But, Ultrastu's quip about him only joining an hour ago is still pointless and irrelevant. This isn't some secret, elite society, although some might like to think that. Edited July 12, 2018 by turbo33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, turbo33 said: Why? Might not be the traditional route, and I agree that maybe he isn't very knowledgable about the factory produced availability, or even the second hand market. But we don't know where he comes from. He says he has a +12ft/lbs certificate. Is it a UK FAC? We don't know. Still, if you don't ask, you won't know. But, Ultrastu's quip about him only joining an hour ago is still pointless and irrelevant. This isn't some secret, elite society, although some might like to think that. So you not a member of the knitting pattern and jam making club on here? Dear oh dear I thought you moved in the correct circles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, turbo33 said: Why? Might not be the traditional route, and I agree that maybe he isn't very knowledgable about the factory produced availability, or even the second hand market. But we don't know where he comes from. He says he has a +12ft/lbs certificate. Is it a UK FAC? We don't know. Still, if you don't ask, you won't know. But, Ultrastu's quip about him only joining an hour ago is still pointless and irrelevant. This isn't some secret, elite society, although some might like to think that. True, he may have been a shotgunner with little exposure to air rifles. It was a bit of a naive question for a fac holder tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 5 hours ago, yeet said: I have been looking at cheap pcp air rifles around £300-£500 and was wondering if I could contact the supplier/company and ask if they would increase the power to FAC standard, I am a certificate holder for a +12ft/lbs air rifle. It would seem that this would be possible because if you look at American reviews of air rifles available in the UK they say they are pushing 20-30ft/lbs whilst ours are getting 12ft/lbs maximum. Thanks Yes I did it a few years back with a Falcon raptor mate,but once it's been on ticket as a Fac it will be on ticket even if it's reduced back to 12 ft b,well that's what i believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 24 minutes ago, Bluebarrels said: So you not a member of the knitting pattern and jam making club on here? Dear oh dear I thought you moved in the correct circles? BB, how very dare you!! You and I are just mere mortals. We haven't qualified for the Pigeon Watch apron, that should be worn during all posts and have no idea of the secret PW hand shake. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 Be careful what u wish for mate,you'll be singing Jerusalem down the WI before the weeks out lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyboy1950 Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 Plenty of FAC air rifles for sale on Gun Star or Gun Trader, usually much cheaper in FAC versions as there are fewer FAC holders for them. Will save a lot of time and hassle getting your own rifle to a gunsmith to do the work and getting it returned. As stated, once it`s classed as a FAC rated gun and is on ticket, there is no getting it off, that`s why they are so much cheaper 2nd hand. Same is true of moderators once on ticket they cannot be removed, though for the life of me I don`t know why? Incidentally it is more usual for a purpose made FAC air rifle Like the Air Arms 510 for example, to have an adjustable out put so you can regulate your rifle from 12 ft/lbs to it`s maximum, and any thing in between, so if you end up shooting within a grain store or barn there is less likelihood of you putting holes through the roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Bluebarrels said: Be careful what u wish for mate,you'll be singing Jerusalem down the WI before the weeks out lol So you crying off this week? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 I was told by Phil of the Ratworks to always buy fac-rated from factory, new or second hand, rather than taking a sub-12 and cranking it up to FAC power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbower Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 I have in my possession, a letter from my Firearms licencing manager which states " an FAC Rated air rifle , may be returned to Non FAC Condition ,only , by a qualified registered gunsmith". So there you go. Different forces may have different rules, but that's on 'headed note paper'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) On 12/07/2018 at 12:37, yeet said: I have been looking at cheap pcp air rifles around £300-£500 and was wondering if I could contact the supplier/company and ask if they would increase the power to FAC standard, I am a certificate holder for a +12ft/lbs air rifle. It would seem that this would be possible because if you look at American reviews of air rifles available in the UK they say they are pushing 20-30ft/lbs whilst ours are getting 12ft/lbs maximum. Thanks Why don't you just buy a FAC rated rifle to start with? £500 plus conversion costs would buy you plenty of FAC rifles! Edited July 13, 2018 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 The 2 i had converted cost me £1 . And thats total for both . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ultrastu said: The 2 i had converted cost me £1 . And thats total for both . The FAC hammer springs alone cost more than that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 My 2 bsa s were converted with no extra parts . The 1 £ was a nominal fee to book into my rfd and out again . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted July 14, 2018 Report Share Posted July 14, 2018 8 hours ago, Ultrastu said: My 2 bsa s were converted with no extra parts . The 1 £ was a nominal fee to book into my rfd and out again . So, no parts and the RFD worked for free!?!? Wish my garage would do a car service on that basis! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) On 12/07/2018 at 17:39, DC177 said: Yeh but it is an odd question for a FAC holder to ask though. Why? Surely a forum is there to provide answers to any questions,and for people to pull on experience of others. Or am I missing something? Edited July 18, 2018 by Bluebarrels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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