Scully Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 25 minutes ago, bornfree said: Probably 5 seconds to unscrew 5 seconds to select the next pair to put in and 5 seconds to screw in. So no not a chore for me. I wasn't thinking of the time it took to swap, just the thought processes involved in selecting a choke for each different target. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 Teague super extended on my Perazzi and I nip them up with a Teague key every now and then. But I never change them can’t even remember what’s in the gun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 17 minutes ago, Scully said: I wasn't thinking of the time it took to swap, just the thought processes involved in selecting a choke for each different target. 🙂 That comes with experience. Anything under 20 yards is cylinder. And anything under 30 yards showing belly or full face is also cylinder. Edge on up to 30 yards and full face up to 40 yards is 1/4. Edge on up to 40 yards and full face up to 50 yards is 3/8 anything over that is 1/2. Fairly simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, bornfree said: That comes with experience. Anything under 20 yards is cylinder. And anything under 30 yards showing belly or full face is also cylinder. Edge on up to 30 yards and full face up to 40 yards is 1/4. Edge on up to 40 yards and full face up to 50 yards is 3/8 anything over that is 1/2. Fairly simple. I use half and half for everything; in my experience that’s even simpler. 😉 Edited to add, for clays anyhow. Edited December 27, 2018 by Scully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 Well iam not a very good shot and using the above method keeps me in either AA or A in every discipline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, bornfree said: Well iam not a very good shot and using the above method keeps me in either AA or A in every discipline. Fixed chokes........sorted ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 Just checked I’m with scully on this one, half in both barrels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, bornfree said: Well iam not a very good shot and using the above method keeps me in either AA or A in every discipline. Fair enough. I don’t enter registered shoots so have no idea where I’d be, but I shoot half and half mostly ( including game , full when decoying ) but enjoy using my trap guns for English Sporting also, which are fixed at full and full and full and extra full. Try it, I think you’ll be surprised at just how well you get on. 👍 Edited December 27, 2018 by Scully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 I have tried 1/2 and 1/2 several times over the years but it always takes around 10 off my average at sporting and around 5 at trap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 There yer go then ! IF you were to use FULL/FULL, you would know if it needed 1/4" more or less lead, that should add a few more to yer score ! Sounds like you need a set of those Muller wonder chokes, get sponsorship from them and all the yoghurts you can eat ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted December 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 4 hours ago, bornfree said: Well iam not a very good shot and using the above method keeps me in either AA or A in every discipline. Is that sporting clays mate? What kind of score is that? I shot 30/50 today with 1/2 and 3/4 - really struggle on some close ish crossers though. I did consider using cylinder and skeet for the round to see how they were but thought not incase there would be loads of holes in the pattern. What are you using to know the rough distance of the clays? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 5 hours ago, bornfree said: That comes with experience. Anything under 20 yards is cylinder. And anything under 30 yards showing belly or full face is also cylinder. Edge on up to 30 yards and full face up to 40 yards is 1/4. Edge on up to 40 yards and full face up to 50 yards is 3/8 anything over that is 1/2. Fairly simple. I think 1/4 and half would do you for all of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 9 hours ago, Lloyd90 said: Is that sporting clays mate? What kind of score is that? I shot 30/50 today with 1/2 and 3/4 - really struggle on some close ish crossers though. I did consider using cylinder and skeet for the round to see how they were but thought not incase there would be loads of holes in the pattern. What are you using to know the rough distance of the clays? 🤔 83% at sporting. give cylinder and skeet a try you will be shocked at the results. 9 hours ago, motty said: I think 1/4 and half would do you for all of that. it would certainly break all of them. but iam not good enough to put a half choke pattern on a clay time after time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 22 minutes ago, bornfree said: it would certainly break all of them. but iam not good enough to put a half choke pattern on a clay time after time. Well you’re certainly a better clay shot than me at 83%; I shoot around mid sixties with half and half on a 100 Sporting layout but am just getting back into on a fairly regularly basis ( about once a month ) after about 20 years. I don’t feel impeded with full and full as I’m still scoring around the same; the misses are down to me, not the chokes. Mate who comes with me shot a 74 with his 12 bore through quarter and half then an 85 with his 20 bore through the same configuration. It ain’t the chokes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, Scully said: Well you’re certainly a better clay shot than me at 83%; I shoot around mid sixties with half and half on a 100 Sporting layout but am just getting back into on a fairly regularly basis ( about once a month ) after about 20 years. I don’t feel impeded with full and full as I’m still scoring around the same; the misses are down to me, not the chokes. Mate who comes with me shot a 74 with his 12 bore through quarter and half then an 85 with his 20 bore through the same configuration. It ain’t the chokes. i totally agree the misses are down to me. but i get less of them with open chokes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, bornfree said: i totally agree the misses are down to me. but i get less of them with open chokes. Fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impala59 Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 Just a thought re original post, my Valtro has extended chokes and comes with a fairly hefty wrap-around wrench. I’ve always nipped with the wrench on the basis of why supply it if it’s not needed? Another vote for copper grease too (on all frequently used threads) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 15 hours ago, bornfree said: I have tried 1/2 and 1/2 several times over the years but it always takes around 10 off my average at sporting and around 5 at trap. Each to their own but that amazes me, you must be chipping them most of the time, if you were smoking them it wouldn't make a difference what choke you used, the choke difference tends to be very small anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 6 hours ago, Dekers said: Each to their own but that amazes me, you must be chipping them most of the time, if you were smoking them it wouldn't make a difference what choke you used, the choke difference tends to be very small anyway! I do chip a lot of them, I just cannot consistently place the shot accurately every time. So I need the help of a larger pattern. I shot 88 today and probably only broke half of them well. But got in the money so all is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, bornfree said: I do chip a lot of them, I just cannot consistently place the shot accurately every time. So I need the help of a larger pattern. I shot 88 today and probably only broke half of them well. But got in the money so all is good. It seems weird to be asking this of someone who scored 88, ( as I had too come to the conclusion that you must be chipping a lot of them ) but does your gun fit you well? Is your mount consistent? I'm genuinely intrigued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 16 minutes ago, bornfree said: I do chip a lot of them, I just cannot consistently place the shot accurately every time. So I need the help of a larger pattern. I shot 88 today and probably only broke half of them well. But got in the money so all is good. A chip off a clay is equally as good as a ball of dust, believe me. If you are going to shoot live stuff, buy a DOG ! 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Scully said: It seems weird to be asking this of someone who scored 88, ( as I had too come to the conclusion that you must be chipping a lot of them ) but does your gun fit you well? Is your mount consistent? I'm genuinely intrigued. Yes gun fit and mount is good. I normally hit the first pair right in the middle and then slowly wander off giving them not enough or too much. Iam sure it's a consistency problem. Edited December 28, 2018 by bornfree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 22 minutes ago, bornfree said: I do chip a lot of them, I just cannot consistently place the shot accurately every time. So I need the help of a larger pattern. I shot 88 today and probably only broke half of them well. But got in the money so all is good. Where did you shoot and how much did you win in which class? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Where did you shoot and how much did you win in which class? Barrowheath A class 3rd when I left. Edited December 28, 2018 by bornfree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 I do love these choke discussions. I use quarter and half for every thing and it gives me extra time for a bacon sandwich by not having to change chokes. Between stands . harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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