chesterse Posted May 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 8 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: hello, sounds like your very new to shooting, but like many on here with years of experience even myself after more than 50 years there is always something new to learn, you mention to punchy and flinching, can i ask what gun you are shooting with, many of us on PW know that it is best to cure a habit before it becomes routine, Sorry I’ve given the wrong impression, I’ve been clay shooting for nearly 40 years and have had a flinch on and off for more than 30. I’ve owned most makes of gun Beretta, Browning, Miroku, Benelli, Krieghoff, Caesar Guerini, Renata Gamba, and Perazzi. I’ve had guns properly fitted and even seen a sports psychologist but although lessened with proper fit and smooth cartridges has never gone away whatever gun I shoot with. Currently shooting a Perazzi MX8 Sporter with montecarlo stock, 32” , weight 8lb 10ozs I’m an A class sporting shooter and on a typical 100 bird shoot I can have on average 3 flinches, sometimes it costs me the target sometimes not, I can sometimes still get it at extreme range. Sometimes I can have 5/6 or more sometime none at all. Most frustrating! So when I re came across Pro Ones I know a good cartridge when I shoot it but put off by the price so hence the original question is there anything out there which is a direct alternative at a better price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 Contact George at Proper Cartridges as I believe he makes an ‘alternative’ .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 RC2's in 24gm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lever357 Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 So what's causing you people to flinch????? I've been shooting for 30 years and never had a problem. Currently using Cheddite Universal Trap - work well in my over under and auto and £210 per thousand for fibre. (I didnt say "only" as I remember buying cartridges at £80 per thousand!!!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chesterse Posted May 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 Many thanks for all your comments, I’ve got a few options to think about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted May 30, 2019 Report Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) Lever357 Flinching is accumulative effect to your body from recoil,your brain gets to the point of not obeying your command to pull the trigger to save your body from the recoil and it's affects. Softer carts a softer recoing pads also softer gun to shoot like a gas operated semi auto and release triggers can help with it. I thought I was suffering from it due to past shoulder damage but I found its me not fully releasing the trigger to reset for second shot. Edited May 30, 2019 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 On 29/05/2019 at 21:38, buze said: Just try CompX 28g. it's the softest cartridge on the market. It's softer than pretty much all 24g I tried, and only beaten by ... CompX 21g. Another vote for CompX. May not be the most 'fancy' cartridge, but sensibly priced and does the job smoothly for me. Give a couple of boxes a try. Flinch is a strange affliction. For me, heavy or 'draggy' trigger pull brings it on, but that is very unlikely for you given the guns you have had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 13 hours ago, chesterse said: Sorry I’ve given the wrong impression, I’ve been clay shooting for nearly 40 years and have had a flinch on and off for more than 30. I’ve owned most makes of gun Beretta, Browning, Miroku, Benelli, Krieghoff, Caesar Guerini, Renata Gamba, and Perazzi. I’ve had guns properly fitted and even seen a sports psychologist but although lessened with proper fit and smooth cartridges has never gone away whatever gun I shoot with. Currently shooting a Perazzi MX8 Sporter with montecarlo stock, 32” , weight 8lb 10ozs I’m an A class sporting shooter and on a typical 100 bird shoot I can have on average 3 flinches, sometimes it costs me the target sometimes not, I can sometimes still get it at extreme range. Sometimes I can have 5/6 or more sometime none at all. Most frustrating! So when I re came across Pro Ones I know a good cartridge when I shoot it but put off by the price so hence the original question is there anything out there which is a direct alternative at a better price? hello, ok it seems you have done everything you can to sort this out with just advice on a similar cartridge, am not a clay shooter now but there are quite a few recommendations and can only wish you good luck, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmo Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 Yep contact George at Proper Carts he will sell you 50,000 or so . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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