Dazv Posted August 30, 2019 Report Share Posted August 30, 2019 Hi all, does anyone know where I can pick up a cheap 410 roll crimp tool? The cheapest I can find online is around the £40 mark which just seems crazy. I've got a metal working lathe but without have one in front of me I'm struggling to get my head around how they work so I can't make my own. thanks guys any advice is much appropriated darren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted August 30, 2019 Report Share Posted August 30, 2019 Look up forest camping, 25$ shipped from Russia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazv Posted August 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2019 Thanks pal, I've had a look and can't find one in 410? You don't have a link do you? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadog1408 Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 https://www.ebay.co.uk/c/15007471704 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) I may have spoke to soon. I have the kit that came with 410/12/20/16. But it doesn’t look like they offer it anymore. It’s a shame because it looks exactly like the ballistic products one for 29$ Edited August 31, 2019 by NoBodyImportant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) They work by alternating pressure, along the circumference of the shell case, with a central raised button acting as guide. You have a vertical slot cut into the tool but the bottom of the slot is not level but a wave form such that there is a high and low ever 60 degrees to give three highs and 3 lows in the circunference of the slot. The cheaper tool on the left (brass) has the outward facing of the wave form as smooth waves and the wider tolerance shallow slot and wider slot but not the tighter finish. Inside diameter 0.45, button width 0.270, button depth to top 0.187, top of wave .217, nottom of wave 0.269 inches The more expensive tool on the right (GAEP) has a slight sharp crest to the wave as can be just seen and slot is deeper and also narrower giving a tighter finish. Inside diameter 0.455, button width 0.315, button depth 0.180, top of wave .245, nottom of wave 0.280 inches Rather than waste time trying to work out the mechanics and depths of the waves etc, I would go to folkestone engineering and get a GAEP one. In the below photo the raised portion of the waves can be seen in both as they are shiny compared to the remainder. Edited August 31, 2019 by Stonepark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 I use a GAEP one from Folkeston to finish my 410 crimps. Excellent bit of kit. I would get the roll turn over model if I was you. I have a bench drill and just set it up the right length of stroke to do the job. Just a touch of vaseline...just a touch, helps stop the shell spinning in your fingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW95J Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 I've got one of the ones from forest camping. Good quality, never had any issues with it. Would recommend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 Folkestone Engineering? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, HW95J said: I've got one of the ones from forest camping. Good quality, never had any issues with it. Would recommend! That’s the one I got. But seems like they are out of stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 hours ago, Dave at kelton said: Folkestone Engineering? They sell shooting, reloading goods, cartridges etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazv Posted September 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 Thanks for all the help guys much appreciated! Maybe I'll give the guys a call and see what they do! Thanks again chaps darren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinfireman Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Dazv said: Thanks for all the help guys much appreciated! Maybe I'll give the guys a call and see what they do! Thanks again chaps darren Contact forest camping in Russia, maybe out of stock, but they usually quickly source one for you. Not as fancy a finish as GAEP, but just a fifth of the price ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 Folkestone eng have them mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 Siarm have them for Eur 5-75 and Eur 18-90. http://www.siarm.com/product_info.php?cPath=2_105_103_155_171&products_id=322 http://www.siarm.com/product_info.php?cPath=2_105_103_155_171&products_id=2397 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazv Posted September 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 Brill cheers pal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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