Raja Clavata Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, panoma1 said: How do you know? Know what? 6 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Surprise surprise the Labour party and its governing body have been unable to decide which way they wish to proceed with Brexit or Remain! And have passed a notion to abolish private schools!? I reckon at this rate both the Tories and Labour could implode by 1st Nov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: In a nutshell: Because with few exceptions, the likes of JRM & Co. and those who have already retired, we are ALL gonna be worse off. Some are gonna be hit really hard, and I don’t much fancy bailing out the very turkeys who voted for Christmas. Really? And you know that for sure do you? So it comes down to your personal finances then? I’ve lived through some genuine hardships during my life, which I won’t bore you with here, but I’m still here alive and kicking. I can’t think of anything leaving the EU without a deal, could bring, which could be any worse than anything I’ve already been through. I think it’s time some people grew some. Edited September 22, 2019 by Scully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: Know what? That what you are claiming is true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, panoma1 said: Nope, whilst in the EU the UK is a small fish in a big pond.....when we leave the big pond we will be a big fish in our own pond! I do hope you are joking, I just spat a bit of tea out🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: And have passed a notion to abolish private schools!? I reckon at this rate both the Tories and Labour could implode by 1st Nov. How absolutely awful, so many of them have their children at these places and now they will have to start to hide the facts again like they used to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Raja Clavata said: I do hope you are joking, I just spat a bit of tea out🤣 No! But I hope you did not spit your tea all over your keyboard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Scully said: Really? And you know that for sure do you? So it comes down to your personal finances then? I’ve lived through some genuine hardships during my life, which I won’t bore you with here, but I’m still here alive and kicking. I can’t think of anything leaving the EU without a deal, could bring, which could be any worse than anything I’ve already been through. I think it’s time some people grew some. Yes really but no not personal finances, that’s not the point. The point is that a significant proportion of those that voted for Brexit will be hit hard and inflicting self harm. I’m gonna be ok either way, this is not about personal interest but public interest. i admire your no deal optimism. Not about growing some at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: Know what? And have passed a notion to abolish private schools!? I reckon at this rate both the Tories and Labour could implode by 1st Nov. A notion or a motion? 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: How absolutely awful, so many of them have their children at these places and now they will have to start to hide the facts again like they used to! So you support the notion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Scully said: Really? And you know that for sure do you? So it comes down to your personal finances then? I’ve lived through some genuine hardships during my life, which I won’t bore you with here, but I’m still here alive and kicking. I can’t think of anything leaving the EU without a deal, could bring, which could be any worse than anything I’ve already been through. I think it’s time some people grew some. Well bully for you. There are a lot less fortunate than you and i. This will hit the poorest hardest. Businesses will go under. Fdi will virtualy stop and what is here now, working on tight margins will go. Tax income will reduce meaning less money for education and services. Wages will go down as we seek competetive rates. We will have to open markets where we do not want to and we will negotiate poorer trade deals than our neighbour the EU. Project fear i can hear it now. Tell me why i am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, panoma1 said: A notion or a motion? 🤔 Sorry, motion, in more than one sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Raja Clavata said: Yes really but no not personal finances, that’s not the point. The point is that a significant proportion of those that voted for Brexit will be hit hard and inflicting self harm. I’m gonna be ok either way, this is not about personal interest but public interest. i admire your no deal optimism. Not about growing some at all. So you are the messiah, the saviour of those who are too stupid to choose what is good for them? How arrogant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: Yes really but no not personal finances, that’s not the point. The point is that a significant proportion of those that voted for Brexit will be hit hard and inflicting self harm. I’m gonna be ok either way, this is not about personal interest but public interest. i admire your no deal optimism. Not about growing some at all. I believe with many remainers ( especially those who regard themselves as part of the social elite) it’s all about personal financial loss or gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 minute ago, panoma1 said: So you are the messiah, the saviour of those who are too stupid to choose what is good for them? How arrogant! We should keep religion out of it but you couldn’t be further off the mark regarding the messiah comment. Keep the insults coming. PS - have you figured out the flaws in your fish / pond analogy yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Scully said: I believe with many remainers ( especially those who regard themselves as part of the social elite) it’s all about personal financial loss or gain. Well I’m certainly not part of any social elite. Ironically I believe pretty much the same is true of the elite behind Brexit who used the frustrations of the man on the street to vote for Brexit which will ultimately make that element of the elite even more elite, driving more people into poverty which will in turn burden those of us in the middle ground helping the impoverished through taxes and the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: We should keep religion out of it but you couldn’t be further off the mark regarding the messiah comment. Keep the insults coming. PS - have you figured out the flaws in your fish / pond analogy yet? Nope! You seem to like to educate those who you claim need educating............so why don’t you enlighten me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 15 minutes ago, oowee said: Well bully for you. There are a lot less fortunate than you and i. This will hit the poorest hardest. Businesses will go under. Fdi will virtualy stop and what is here now, working on tight margins will go. Tax income will reduce meaning less money for education and services. Wages will go down as we seek competetive rates. We will have to open markets where we do not want to and we will negotiate poorer trade deals than our neighbour the EU. Project fear i can hear it now. Tell me why i am wrong. More like Project “what the majority of the available data points to”👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 20 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: So you support the notion? No not at all, I like HONESTY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 23 minutes ago, panoma1 said: So you are the messiah, the saviour of those who are too stupid to choose what is good for them? How arrogant! "He's NOT the Messiah, He's a VERY naughty boy!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: More like Project “what the majority of the available data points to”👍 Who writes the data which you refer.......remainers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, panoma1 said: Nope! You seem to like to educate those who you claim need educating............so why don’t you enlighten me? If you read back through this thread and the locked one you’ll see numerous references from a certain poster directly stating that I’m the one who needs educating. Up to now I have not intentionally implied or claimed that anyone else needs educating but in the case of the fish / pond analogy, having already stated the correct interpretation of the UK both in and out of the EU, I humbly suggest you’ll get much better satisfaction from working it out for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 24 minutes ago, oowee said: Well bully for you. There are a lot less fortunate than you and i. This will hit the poorest hardest. Businesses will go under. Fdi will virtualy stop and what is here now, working on tight margins will go. Tax income will reduce meaning less money for education and services. Wages will go down as we seek competetive rates. We will have to open markets where we do not want to and we will negotiate poorer trade deals than our neighbour the EU. Conjecture, doom mongering, heard it all 3 years ago, didn't care then, dont care now. Still voted leave, along with all those 'poor' people you care about so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 minute ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: "He's NOT the Messiah, He's a VERY naughty boy!" Much more apt! 😂👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 minute ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: "He's NOT the Messiah, He's a VERY naughty boy!" 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, panoma1 said: Who writes the data which you refer.......remainers? The views differ across the spectrum, best to get as many sources as you can as long as you can approach it with an open mind. As you know, the same principle as any kind of research undertaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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