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So went out for my 3 mile excercise walk today and was looking for suitable stick making stock. I came across these trees/bushes

I am guessing one is Blackthorn ( really hope so!🤞) but what is the other?

 

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Any help,appreciated as it will help i n deciding if I take my saw for a walk next time!

i can get better pics tomorrow if required

 

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Blackthorn should be pretty well covered in a white blossom now , other looks like a dog rose , makes a nice shank , if you find a good one , dense , once the thorns off after seasoning leaves a nice pattern....bit late in the year now for cutting shanks....

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3 minutes ago, boo said:

Blackthorn should be pretty well covered in a white blossom now , other looks like a dog rose , makes a nice shank , if you find a good one , dense , once the thorns off after seasoning leaves a nice pattern....bit late in the year now for cutting shanks....

No blossom to speak of on anything really BUT they have recently been flailed.  Top one had some small,white flowers...but not many!

the top one has some fierce looking spikes on it! I'll get better picks tomorrow. When is best time to cut shanks then ? as following on from the walking stick thread I fancy cutting my own

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3 minutes ago, boo said:

When the saps down in winter,  I usually cut at the end of the phesant season...

👍I'll,leave it for the time being then. Nobody else is going to cut them as it's all Barbour Jackets and coloured festival wellies here!

bloke a mile  down the road just chopped in his Bugatti Veron for a Wraith with £100k of extras on it....times is hard

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8 minutes ago, Walker570 said:

Yep, briar or wild rose and yes, they can get very thick at the base if not cut back.  I have one I made up for stalking. Very light to carry but not as strong as blackthorn or hazel.

do they make pipe bowls out of the root from that ?

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9 hours ago, boo said:

When the saps down in winter,  I usually cut at the end of the phesant season...

Old saying best time to cut a stick , is when you see one ! 

Yes cut it before someone else does . A pal asked me how long should I leave a stick to dry . I said a year an inch WHAT THE  . This things 4 foot long 😀

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Bit late for cutting,  probably dropped blossom & budding , if you do decide to cut , leave the thorns on the briar till seasoned , easy to remove,  leave the thorns on a blackthorn to , can snip the points off , be v.careful , they hurt & fester ! Same with holly if cutting,  leave the Stubbs on prevents splits or cracks in the shank....

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