rickardo Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 Anyone else hunt/fly birds here’s mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 Beautiful birds this could be a wonderful thread 😊 you could tell us all about them please nursed a few injured ones but never (yet) had the knowledge or time to train one to work and hunt thanks for posting 😊👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason g Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 Beautiful birds, I aim to go fly a bird through experience days each year and its amazing to see them working 👍👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickardo Posted September 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 34 minutes ago, Old farrier said: Beautiful birds this could be a wonderful thread 😊 you could tell us all about them please nursed a few injured ones but never (yet) had the knowledge or time to train one to work and hunt thanks for posting 😊👍 Mainly fly for work , but do hunt them, pic top- bottom female peregrine x lanner, female gyr x saker, male peregrine, female goshawk then my female gyr x saker.. 31 minutes ago, jason g said: Beautiful birds, I aim to go fly a bird through experience days each year and its amazing to see them working 👍👍 Can you not find anyone local to tag along Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickardo Posted September 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 Some more pics of my goshawk.. And falcons love flying them at crow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason g Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 Wow fantastic to see the action, a friend of the family has a Harris hawk so think I'll ask the question but who knows 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 Some great pictures there just curious here if your hawks go after a bird can you call them off just wondering incase they went onto a bird out of season or something rare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) I once had the great experience and pleasure of a day’s hawking with Harris hawks at the Hawk Conservancy in Hampshire. Caught a few rabbits bolted by ferrets, but seem to recall that the odd pheasant proved too quick for those hawks. First time in years that I had a young bird on my arm 🤣 Great photos by the way Richardo OB Edited September 25, 2022 by Old Boggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 Had the very great pleasure of meeting rickardo a couple on months ago, he is a very unassuming gentleman, polite and obviously a superb trainer, the bird on his arm dam near bought a tear to my eye, simply awe inspiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jall25 Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 Awesome ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickardo Posted September 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 21 hours ago, Old farrier said: Some great pictures there just curious here if your hawks go after a bird can you call them off just wondering incase they went onto a bird out of season or something rare No afraid, we’ll I can’t.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickardo Posted September 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 9 hours ago, Old Boggy said: I once had the great experience and pleasure of a day’s hawking with Harris hawks at the Hawk Conservancy in Hampshire. Caught a few rabbits bolted by ferrets, but seem to recall that the odd pheasant proved too quick for those hawks. First time in years that I had a young bird on my arm 🤣 Great photos by the way Richardo OB Yes I know what you mean, I’ve caught plenty of pheasant with Harris hawks but usually when there up a tree and flushed, there just sometime flown in different ways ie I flew my Harris hawks following me in the tree tops where the goshawk is flown more like a falcon off the glove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickardo Posted September 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) Edited September 25, 2022 by rickardo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickardo Posted September 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 9 hours ago, bruno22rf said: Had the very great pleasure of meeting rickardo a couple on months ago, he is a very unassuming gentleman, polite and obviously a superb trainer, the bird on his arm dam near bought a tear to my eye, simply awe inspiring. Thank you, good to put a face to a name aswell. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickeydredd Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 Not any more sadly, used to fly a female Gos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickardo Posted September 26, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 (edited) Very nice Mickeydredd 👍 Edited September 26, 2022 by rickardo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 On 24/09/2022 at 16:13, rickardo said: Mainly fly for work , but do hunt them, pic top- bottom female peregrine x lanner, female gyr x saker, male peregrine, female goshawk then my female gyr x saker.. Can you not find anyone local to tag along Why the crosses with the Falcons? What benefits or advantages do they bring over pure bred birds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickeydredd Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Penelope said: Why the crosses with the Falcons? What benefits or advantages do they bring over pure bred birds? peregrine x lanner - adds a bit of oomph to the lanner at much less cost and has less "over-oomph" than a pure peregrine. If used for landfill, then it doesn't need to be a full-blown peregrine or Gyr and they would be very expensive birds to risk for the job. female gyr x saker - puts a bit of size into the relatively small saker, again at significantly less money than a pure Gyr. Sakers used to be very easy to come by, peregrine and Gyr less so and also at hugely more expensive prices, so breeders used to create the hybrid as a filler for those without the funds to buy the real thing. It was also cheaper for breeders to buy breeding stock (or Gyr or Pere semen) for AI so they could breed a number of falcons for reasonable cost. Edited September 26, 2022 by Mickeydredd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted September 27, 2022 Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 11 hours ago, Mickeydredd said: peregrine x lanner - adds a bit of oomph to the lanner at much less cost and has less "over-oomph" than a pure peregrine. If used for landfill, then it doesn't need to be a full-blown peregrine or Gyr and they would be very expensive birds to risk for the job. female gyr x saker - puts a bit of size into the relatively small saker, again at significantly less money than a pure Gyr. Sakers used to be very easy to come by, peregrine and Gyr less so and also at hugely more expensive prices, so breeders used to create the hybrid as a filler for those without the funds to buy the real thing. It was also cheaper for breeders to buy breeding stock (or Gyr or Pere semen) for AI so they could breed a number of falcons for reasonable cost. Thank you, makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickardo Posted September 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 Some nice flying from the new peregrine x lanner on site yesterday, she milled around site going up to just over 450ft, nice to watch was hoping she would put a stoop in at something but nothing took her fancy so ended up calling her into the lure, also the peregrine decided to take a magpie while milling around site and my gyr saker took another crow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 (edited) These are superb. What a great hobby / interest. You could make some serious money from breeding I guess? It would be interesting to fit some sort of tracker to one and see how high, far and fast it flies. Edited September 29, 2022 by oowee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 6 hours ago, oowee said: These are superb. What a great hobby / interest. You could make some serious money from breeding I guess? It would be interesting to fit some sort of tracker to one and see how high, far and fast it flies. Not with the hybrids, as I suspect they will be infertile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickeydredd Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 The big money is in breeding Peregrine and Gyr, plus a hybrid of the two, for export to the Gulf where the newest version of "falconry" is timed races. The prize money is huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 I see there is a tracker fitted. Missed that. If only I had more time to devote I would love to work with them. How long do you fly them for? Do you rotate all the birds each day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickeydredd Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 3 hours ago, oowee said: I see there is a tracker fitted. Missed that. The phone screenshot is from the telemetry fitted to the falcon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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