jall25 Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Gordon R said: jail25 - any chance of those figures you boast about? Hello Gordon - get over it Go out for a walk Read a book Arrange some flowers But for Christ sake find something to make you smile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 22 minutes ago, jall25 said: Hello Gordon - get over it Go out for a walk Read a book Arrange some flowers But for Christ sake find something to make you smile 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udderlyoffroad Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 Jebus H Christ on a combine harvester. The attitude you lot demonstrate will be the death of shooting. A small victory and after some nice words from people otherwise not known for their support of the shooting orgs, it's back to business as usual, that is to say, squabbling over semantics & irrelevances. If only all of you could put as much mental energy into lobbying your MPs and other actual productive activities. I wasn't around at the time, but I'm led to understand this sort of attitude is exactly why the handgun passed. It's easy to see why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 18 hours ago, jall25 said: Yes - PR damage - i think it was also pushed home in relation to biodiversity damage and not following the science The general public tends to not equate conservation and biodiversity to people with shotguns shooting birds. We know different, 4 hours ago, HantsRob said: I wonder out of that 40,000, how many of them are unique people. Also, how many of that 40,000 applies to the UU grounds, as the wording implies that's part of the entire UK. No idea , I pulled that quote off BASCs website ? 5 hours ago, HantsRob said: I would love for this to be a good news story and for shooting to be restored. I do believe it's odd how they were gifted the land, and under what circumstance as that could drive the decision making. Either way, good luck to all of those directly affected, and also those indirectly (the shooting community as a whole, family etc) Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 38 minutes ago, udderlyoffroad said: Jebus H Christ on a combine harvester. The attitude you lot demonstrate will be the death of shooting. A small victory and after some nice words from people otherwise not known for their support of the shooting orgs, it's back to business as usual, that is to say, squabbling over semantics & irrelevances. If only all of you could put as much mental energy into lobbying your MPs and other actual productive activities. I wasn't around at the time, but I'm led to understand this sort of attitude is exactly why the handgun passed. It's easy to see why. I don't usually get involved in the comments on the politics of shooting but I obviously keep up to date with what's going on in the world of shooting and it's hard not notice the people who knock basc from pillar to post instead of backing them, basc are not always right but they are trying to counter allsorts of attacks on shooting I'd hate to be in their shoes I really would Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 1 hour ago, yickdaz said: it's hard not notice the people who knock basc from pillar to post instead of backing them No where on this thread has anyone knocked BASC , perhaps you are referring to other threads ? The loss of the land is a major blow to some grouse shoots, but as many have said, you cannot force someone to let their land for this purpose if they dont want to. It doesnt matter if shooting orgs protest about it , it doesnt matter if every single certificate holder in the UK protests about it. Unless there is a legally binding reason for forcing them to continue leasing the land, they dont have to. Apply it to any other situation beside compulsory purchase by council/government, and you will have the same result. And you can back BASC, or any other shooting org as much as you like , they cannot move mountains, never have , and never will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, Rewulf said: No where on this thread has anyone knocked BASC , perhaps you are referring to other threads ? And you can back BASC, or any other shooting org as much as you like , they cannot move mountains, never have , and never will. Whichever thread it is it goes on No they can't move mountains but without a voice nothing happens And its better to have some voice than none at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, yickdaz said: Whichever thread it is it goes on Sometimes people dont agree with the direction an org is going, be they members or not , if questioning a policy which directly affects me and everyone else is unacceptable , what kind of organisation is that , and indeed , what kind of world is it ? 7 minutes ago, yickdaz said: No they can't move mountains but without a voice nothing happens And its better to have some voice than none at all So we shout at the mountain, which achieves nothing but making us feel like we did something ? How about we do something that will get a result, rather than waste time on the mountain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 jail25 - any chance of those figures you boast about? No sarcy remarks are needed. Just want to know if you can back up what you post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jall25 Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Gordon R said: jail25 - any chance of those figures you boast about? No sarcy remarks are needed. Just want to know if you can back up what you post. Gordon I am starting to wonder if you are Ok I feel we should not engage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 jall25. I agree. You are out of your depth. You cannot or will not back up what you assert to be the truth. I will not respond to your posts and will ignore you. I suspect your ego will demand the last word. It will confirm what I already think. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted August 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) This is the real UU apart from them polluting all our waterways, what hypocritical scum bags they are. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/aug/16/united-utilities-fined-800000-for-illegally-removing-22-billion-litres-of-water Edited August 16, 2023 by Weihrauch17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokingdragon Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 https://amp.theguardian.com/business/2023/aug/16/united-utilities-fined-800000-for-illegally-removing-22-billion-litres-of-water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 On 08/08/2023 at 16:10, Rewulf said: Now if he had said BASC power ! Like Gordon says , a review is not a victory, its fairly likely that UU will consider the financial loss against public perception. If anyone thinks UU are going to think, 'Oh those poor grouse shoots' then I would give your head a wobble. More likely, 'those poor grouse' which would have a lot more resonance with their customer base no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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